More from Chris Shays: "Abu Ghraib was not torture"

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The sad thing is, he's the most liberal House Republican.

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Does he want to lose reelection? You'd expect him to be running away from Bush now, not making lame defense and apologies for him.

That's the difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. The Republicans know to toe the line. Rep. King (NY-03) says some pretty crazy sh**t too. Reynolds (NY-26) is quite obnoxious too. These are all in competitive districts, but they have a spine anyways. Meanwhile, we're stuck with at best uninspiring moderates at worst backstabbers in many of our marginal (and even not marginal) districts.

The fact is the Republican strategy is a winner, and it's only because of a huge shift in the national mood against their pathetic leadership that they might lose Congress.

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the hack must go.  I feel vindicated.  Every Republican member of congress (except for Orrin Hatch) should go.

Why not Hatch? Comedy relief?

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I don't give a s&$t about Abu Ghraib.

Don't dodge the issue. Just because a congressman who you like made a stupid remark doesn't mean you can pretend it didn't happen.

As I said, I don't care.  I consider it a very minor issue.  Things like that are inevitable with a war.  Whatever happened at Abu Ghraib under us was a lot better than it was under Saddam Hussein.

I think "better than Saddam Hussein" isn't much of a moral standard. The US should aim much higher.

Not to mention that I'm not sure that the Iraqis are actually better off than under Saddam. There are estimates of over 100,000 Iraqis dead because of the US invasion.

We have lost all of our moral authority.

This war would have ended long ago, except that they've avoided using a draft. A lot of chickenhawk warmongers would be singing a different tune if suddenly it was their ass on the line.