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« on: January 08, 2008, 12:29:08 AM »
So, who is going to win? William Bryk or Raymond Stebbins? I'm talking about the Vice Presidential primary.
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008, 07:51:13 PM »
Biden is beating Gravel 49-41, even though he dropped out.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 07:56:52 PM »
I think Hillary is going to try to spin her loss as a victory.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 08:01:52 PM »
ABC explicitly did not call it.

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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 08:05:27 PM »
I suspect that the media will spin this as a Clinton victory.
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 08:07:50 PM »
Quote from: MarkWarner08 on January 08, 2008, 08:06:55 PM
The brilliant Clinton strategy may be working.  Obama shoud've playe the expectations game better. This is the worst mismatch in PR since the Bush team convinced voters Kerry was the best debater since Cicero.

The Clintons know how to play the media. Bill's whining about the unfair coverage was designed to make us think that we're not being played.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2008, 08:10:34 PM »
Quote from: M on January 08, 2008, 08:08:50 PM
It's easy to day it was a conspiracy of great spin, but I'm not convinced. I think even the HRC team legitimately thought that the race was almost over. Now we see that that was a premature call.

A week ago, Obama winning Iowa by 8 points, and then winning NH would have been game over for her. Clinton knows how to use the media to play the expectations game. It would be nice if she had spent 1% of the effort she has spent to running for President to standing up to Mr. Bush.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2008, 08:12:16 PM »
Quote from: Vander Blubb on January 08, 2008, 08:09:35 PM
And they talk about the people on tradesports overreacting . . .

This isn't over-reacting?

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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2008, 08:21:46 PM »
Quote from: oaksmarts on January 08, 2008, 08:21:00 PM
Quote from: Sam "Spade" on January 08, 2008, 08:19:33 PM
If they're calling it for McCain and not for Obama, I can pretty much guarantee you that the Obama-Clinton race will be closer.

Probably.  I just hope they don't spin this for Hillary as the "comeback kid." if she comes in a close second. 

Oh, they will, it's just a question of how effective Clinton and her powerful friends are with that sort of lame spin.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2008, 08:46:52 PM »
Quote from: Bobby on January 08, 2008, 08:45:59 PM
Obviously the polls are flawed. It's obvious that closet Clinton supporters are not the most outgoing voter in New Hampshire, you might be able to blame that on the outcome of a fun night 10 years ago.

Do you mean 16 years ago?
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2008, 08:49:28 PM »
Clinton did stir up the race with her tears, her attacks on Obama, and her threats of terrorist attacks.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2008, 08:51:08 PM »
Quote from: Bobby on January 08, 2008, 08:48:33 PM
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Quote from: Bobby on January 08, 2008, 08:45:59 PM
Obviously the polls are flawed. It's obvious that closet Clinton supporters are not the most outgoing voter in New Hampshire, you might be able to blame that on the outcome of a fun night 10 years ago.

Do you mean 16 years ago?

Are we talking Jones or Lewinsky?

Oh, I thought you meant when Bill got called "The comeback kid" by the media in 1992.
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2008, 09:09:15 PM »
Slight tightening

30.56% in
Clinton 39.46%
Obama 36.01%
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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2008, 09:22:15 PM »
Quote from: True Democrat on January 08, 2008, 09:21:16 PM
I'm predicting 38-36 for Obama.  Which is a win for Clinton.

A win for Obama is a win for Obama.
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2008, 09:24:22 PM »
2,619 vote difference with 40% in
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2008, 09:30:49 PM »
Difference of 2,156 with 43% in
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2008, 09:32:01 PM »
Difference is now 2800
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2008, 09:33:33 PM »
2,935 difference with 44% reporting.
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2008, 09:34:16 PM »
Wow, so many comments, it's getting hard to post. Clinton leads by an even 3k.
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2008, 09:35:06 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2008, 09:36:46 PM »
NH.Clinton odds

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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2008, 09:38:09 PM »
Damn, I think she'll win.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2008, 09:39:02 PM »
The tears have given her a 4336 vote lead.
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2008, 09:42:41 PM »
4,091 vote difference with 47% in
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E: -7.38, S: -8.36
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2008, 09:45:01 PM »
3,662 vote difference with 48% in
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