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Question: Do you believe the United States is in decline?
#1
Republican: Yes
 
#2
Republican: No
 
#3
Democrat: Yes
 
#4
Democrat: No
 
#5
independent/third party: Yes
 
#6
independent/third party: No
 
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Total Voters: 54

Author Topic: 'America in Decline' Narrative Finally in Decline?  (Read 3201 times)
Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
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« on: February 06, 2013, 09:29:16 PM »

America is not in decline. The Constitution is in decline. The later is just as scary as the first.
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Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
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E: 5.29, S: -5.04


« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 10:02:20 PM »

America is not in decline. The Constitution is in decline. The later is just as scary as the first.

I have to agree with this.  I preferred the Constitution during the slave days.  That really was the golden era of the US Constitution.  Those were also good times because women couldn't vote.

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Well, enjoy the new era of unlawful drone killings, government wiretapping, and shadow Presidents named Cheney ruling the country. You should be fine with it; after all, didn't you Egyptian slavery in the name of national prestige ok? Wink

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Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 10:18:37 PM »

Well, enjoy the new era of unlawful drone killings, government wiretapping, and shadow Presidents named Cheney ruling the country.

There is zero chance me or anyone I know will ever have to worry about a drone strike.  The NSA can list to all my phone calls if they wish.  They will be bored to tears.  I don't care how any President or Vice President divvy up their tasks.  As long as the President isn't presiding over the Senate and his signature is on all the laws and treaties what Constitutional difference does it make?

I wouldn't trade any of that for a Negro shackled out back.  How about you?
Please find the section of the Constitution that says slavery is legal. States Rights is an ambiguous term; that is why we have an amendments process. I don’t know of a Libertarian who opposes the 16th Amendment. The states don’t have any more of the right to trample human dignity then the federal government does.
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Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
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Posts: 38,095
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Political Matrix
E: 5.29, S: -5.04


« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2013, 10:30:59 PM »

Please find the section of the Constitution that says slavery is legal. States Rights is an ambiguous term; that is why we have an amendments process. I don’t know of a Libertarian who opposes the 16th Amendment. The states don’t have any more of the right to trample human dignity then the federal government does.

Not sure what that string of words was getting at but the US Constitution today and how it is applied is far better than it's been for most of our rather sordid history.  It's not perfect.  It's a work in progress.
It never was perfect, and yes, it is a work in progress. You go back and retcon the parts that are bad. Like not abolishing slavery outright. But if your going to increase the executives power, go back and do it through the Constitution, via passing an amendment.
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