The Klartext Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, and Deplorable Posts VI

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What happened yesterday is what happens when I don't take my medication.

Is that what happened when you said you hated transpeople as well?

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Every post this douche makes

Oh come on, that's the third time that jokes been done today

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The mentally disabled should not be killed. They are humans. At the same time, they are absolutely a burden to society and anyone who says they are a blessing is clearly just trying to make themselves feel better about the horrible situation they are in. To minimize their burden to society, the government should run care homes where these people can be taken care of. If people want to take care of their own mentally retarded relatives by themselves, they should of course be allowed but if there are quality care homes, very few will choose that option. Also, as soon as a mental disability is diagnosed, a fetus should be aborted. This should not be mandated by law, just encouraged by society. People whose families have a history of mental retardation should also be discouraged from having children, again, not by the law, just by society. Eugenics is fine as long as it's not racial.

*sigh*

Of all the changes in our culture, that is the one that upsets me the most.

That was the most heinous post I've ever read on Atlas, period.

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The mentally disabled should not be killed. They are humans. At the same time, they are absolutely a burden to society and anyone who says they are a blessing is clearly just trying to make themselves feel better about the horrible situation they are in. To minimize their burden to society, the government should run care homes where these people can be taken care of. If people want to take care of their own mentally retarded relatives by themselves, they should of course be allowed but if there are quality care homes, very few will choose that option. Also, as soon as a mental disability is diagnosed, a fetus should be aborted. This should not be mandated by law, just encouraged by society. People whose families have a history of mental retardation should also be discouraged from having children, again, not by the law, just by society. Eugenics is fine as long as it's not racial.

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Of all the changes in our culture, that is the one that upsets me the most.

That was the most heinous post I've ever read on Atlas, period.

Yeah, this is a horrifying expansion of the welfare state.

Uh, people who literally have no ability to care for themselves what so ever are the exact reason why we should have a welfare state. I'm against redistribution of wealth, not a basic welfare system. There is a major difference between the two. It's one thing to punish the rich to reward those who are not inclined to work when they have the ability. It's another thing to deny basic services to people who otherwise have no way of either affording (or even comprehending) them.

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This isn't necessarily "objectively bad" but I'm putting it here to register extreme displeasure both with the attitudes involved and in the fact that this is what the author came back for.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Here is a 'holiday special' post (because this issue matters a great deal to me and I can't not respond to it)


People who are severely mentally or physically disabled are a burden. A huge burden. As are the elderly and most children for that matter (I'll leave that there for reasons that should be obvious) A massive part of my old job was acting in a medical-legal capacity with children who were severely disabled. I have first hand experience of the family difficulties and the support difficulties surrounding this. I have allocated funding, medical treatment, respite care and long term residential care. I've communicated with those who can communicate. I've appointed legal advocates for them. I have went to court for them.

It's taxing and ludicrously expensive. You can love someone to the point you'd do anything for them, but they are still a burden. Saying someone is a 'burden' or a 'strain' says nothing and implies nothing with respect to how you actually view that person. Pretending otherwise, or feigning obliviousness is in fact, a backhanded insult. If you couch a 'burden' in neutral 'loving' terms, that leads to people not taking your requirements and your needs for help and assistance seriously. Because 'didn't you say they weren't a burden?' We're already seeing this (in the UK at least) when it comes to residential provision. I'm sorry Nathan, but saying that caring for someone who can't care for themselves is a 'privilege and honor' is nothing but wank. It's not. It's a duty. It's a burden. And if you're doing it or thinking about it as some form of self reflection of penance then you'd last 5 minutes either caring for a loved one or for others in a voluntary or professional capacity.

That's point one. Point two, and on a different line of thought entirely, is that those who have an debilitating or inhibitive disability that is hereditary and that they would not wish upon their childrenas much they are able to deal with it in themselves, tend to be the most supportive of ways and means to mitigate this. Which pro-life fetishists tend not to have much time for because that involves both the act of termination and the use of embryology (founded as it is on the destructive study of embryos in the first instance, and the selective manner of implantation) as factors. The alternative is not having biological children; surrogacy or adoption. And while all of these are wonderful and noble things to do, it is a slap in the face to someone who can use these means in order to have their own biological children.

Nah, I'd say that's an objectively bad post. And I'm pro-choice.

I find the "I'm a social worker, so I know" attitude annoying. No, social workers and case workers don't know what families like mine have been through. In fact, the social worker (a particularly egregious woman) if anything delayed and hindered the process of getting my brother into a group home while the state was threatening to Baker Act him.

And then there is the rest of the post.

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This isn't necessarily "objectively bad" but I'm putting it here to register extreme displeasure both with the attitudes involved and in the fact that this is what the author came back for.

Merry Christmas everyone!

Here is a 'holiday special' post (because this issue matters a great deal to me and I can't not respond to it)


People who are severely mentally or physically disabled are a burden. A huge burden. As are the elderly and most children for that matter (I'll leave that there for reasons that should be obvious) A massive part of my old job was acting in a medical-legal capacity with children who were severely disabled. I have first hand experience of the family difficulties and the support difficulties surrounding this. I have allocated funding, medical treatment, respite care and long term residential care. I've communicated with those who can communicate. I've appointed legal advocates for them. I have went to court for them.

It's taxing and ludicrously expensive. You can love someone to the point you'd do anything for them, but they are still a burden. Saying someone is a 'burden' or a 'strain' says nothing and implies nothing with respect to how you actually view that person. Pretending otherwise, or feigning obliviousness is in fact, a backhanded insult. If you couch a 'burden' in neutral 'loving' terms, that leads to people not taking your requirements and your needs for help and assistance seriously. Because 'didn't you say they weren't a burden?' We're already seeing this (in the UK at least) when it comes to residential provision. I'm sorry Nathan, but saying that caring for someone who can't care for themselves is a 'privilege and honor' is nothing but wank. It's not. It's a duty. It's a burden. And if you're doing it or thinking about it as some form of self reflection of penance then you'd last 5 minutes either caring for a loved one or for others in a voluntary or professional capacity.

That's point one. Point two, and on a different line of thought entirely, is that those who have an debilitating or inhibitive disability that is hereditary and that they would not wish upon their childrenas much they are able to deal with it in themselves, tend to be the most supportive of ways and means to mitigate this. Which pro-life fetishists tend not to have much time for because that involves both the act of termination and the use of embryology (founded as it is on the destructive study of embryos in the first instance, and the selective manner of implantation) as factors. The alternative is not having biological children; surrogacy or adoption. And while all of these are wonderful and noble things to do, it is a slap in the face to someone who can use these means in order to have their own biological children.

Nah, I'd say that's an objectively bad post. And I'm pro-choice.

I find the "I'm a social worker, so I know" attitude annoying. No, social workers and case workers don't know what families like mine have been through. In fact, the social worker (a particularly egregious woman) if anything delayed and hindered the process of getting my brother into a group home while the state was threatening to Baker Act him.

And then there is the rest of the post.

Never quite understood this logic. I've done tax returns for a lot of poor people. I don't pretend I understand what its like to be poor.

That is a good bit different. You're doing a service in which they contract you to help them. A social worker is a public employee. They serve the public and they are paid by the public. They should absolutely come from a sympathetic point of view and work on the patients behalf, especially when an other element of the bureaucracy was threatening to remove my brother from us by force and lump him with schizophrenics and other people.

Now, I have nothing against the mentally ill obviously. The phrase "lumped in" reads worse than I mean it to. Unfortunately, at least down here in South Florida, the local municipal group homes where they send anyone who is "Baker Acted" to reside usually involve lumping apples and oranges together. That denies care to both the mentally ill and the mentally disabled (a clear difference between the two) decent care, it is unfair to the caregivers who work very hard, and lastly, gyps the taxpayers.

There was a reason why my parents sent my other brother, who is battling heroin addiction, to a cabin in the North Carolina mountains with four or five other junkies to recover in the wilderness. We simply can't afford to send him to another ineffective residential treatment program, nor would my parents send him to the county run facilities, which is basically a half-way house system run with Medicare funds.

There needs to be serious reform in our social welfare system's handling. I'd prefer if the government outsourced the actual residential programs to privately owned, for profit facilities like the one where my autistic brother resides. Of course, there'd be a need for an incredible amount of oversight to root out the temptation for Medicare fraud, but I don't think local, state, or federal government could run a group home like the one where my brother resides. My brother's group home, while rather stark, is in a nice, small house in a working class neighborhood, is secured, and is safe. My brother loves it there, and actually gets impatient to return home after visits here. Every American family in my families situation should have the same access to the same quality care that my brother Harry receives, which combines the best aspects of a market and the best aspects of a public system.

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I agree with a lot of what you're saying, Sanchez, but why on earth should it be for-profit?

It provides a motive for people to go in and give it their best. As long as their goal is making a comfortable living while still offering quality care, it can work. People who love what they do tend to do it a lot better as well as living a lot better, regardless of profession. If the motive is purely profit, than the quality of care will of course suffer. Which is why a strong regulatory framework should and hopefully would be in place.

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I agree with a lot of what you're saying, Sanchez, but why on earth should it be for-profit?

It provides a motive for people to go in and give it their best. As long as their goal is making a comfortable living while still offering quality care, it can work. People who love what they do tend to do it a lot better as well as living a lot better, regardless of profession. If the motive is purely profit, than the quality of care will of course suffer. Which is why a strong regulatory framework should and hopefully would be in place.

For-profits have a way of stiffing whatever service they are supposed to give in favor of cutting expenses wherever, even when there is regulatory oversight.

This is simply not a good risk to take with people's lives on the line and precisely why healthcare is as effed up as it is.

So what do we do, just throw people into subpar, mismanaged, municipally owned and operated facilities where the same problems would exist anyway? This attitude that it somehow can't be done is
he reason why it's rarely tried.

All I know is that my brother lives in a privately owned, for profit facility, which is paid for by Medicare. The house is reasonably maintained, the caregivers are very transparent and truly love the children with whom they live with for half the week, and my brother and his five or six other housemates love it there.

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John Kerry is the reason the US lost in Vietnam? You learn something new every day!

I love when teenagers claim we lost Vietnam because that generation "wasn't tough enough" lol. I'd love to see these chickenhawks get transported back for a day.

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As much as I disagree with Sanchez's ideology, style, worldview, etc., this was uncalled for.

Can you guys read, or are you just so blinded by your little "win" (the only one you've gotten at all for a good while) that you don't realize that it literally only applies to those already in transit when the order was issued. In two days, the situation will be virtually unchanged.

You really should be deported, Trump would approve, impoverished Hispanic family that's a drain on white America.

I'm not even Hispanic and that is pretty much widely known, so it didn't even work. Should be in the ore mine.

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NATO is the last foothold of liberal democracy in the world.

it was without merits before putin made a war-loving imperialist religious superpower out of his country, whose only goal seems to be destroying the EU.

today either you support the NATO or you think defending democracy can be done with words and contracts alone.

-NATO defends militant Islam, not democracy.

You also seem to misunderstand Russian goals badly.

-Name me a time since 1992 that it actually did something while not defending militant Islam.

Name ME a time when NATO defended militant Islam.

-2011

1995 and 1999 are also good candidates.

Are you honestly suggesting that defending the largely secular Muslim Bosniaks from nationalistic Orthodox Serb genocide and war crimes is an example of NATO defending militant Islam?

I think it was an example of NATO being downright stupid regardless of who they were defending.

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Eharding is aware that the President of the Philippines is basically Idi Amin minus the low IQ right?

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Runeghost is probably just a 15-year old kid who gets bullied at school and tries to be #edgy and compensate on Atlas.

So he's basically like a young Jeb Bush.

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Who is NSV???

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Anyone who doesn't have evergreen on ignore is doing Atlas wrong

Ah she's alright. Makes me laugh when she calls me on something we both know is BS.

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This one is for BRTD:

Stop trying to make President Bullock happen. It's not going to happen.

Trump is president dude the rules have changed

"But Trump!!1!"

One of the most recognizable people in America was elected president, therefore a completely anonymous Governor of a small state can!

^^^
Trump is the face of name recognition.

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Classic Conservative is still young and impressionable. This type of attitude towards him is the exact behavior that will just lead to him moving further away from your political views.

That is exactly what happened with me when I first showed up here.

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Wine is pretty gross. Why would anyone drink it period?

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Wine is pretty gross. Why would anyone drink it period?

Wine, like most things, is an acquired taste and super good once you're used to it.  It's actually pretty entertaining for a weekend activity to get into the different types of (red) wine.  I think white wine is gross, though.

I just like a good gin and tonic. Granted, mine aren't very good, but still, when somebody makes a good one they make a good one.

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What did CC say exactly?

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The left does this all the time. I won't condone his comments but evergreen says far worse every day.

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The left does this all the time. I won't condone his comments but evergreen says far worse every day.

ok

Your sig proves it.

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Fwiw, I do dislike the excessive anti-Classic Conservative stuff; I actually deleted my AAD account because their content doesn't seem to go beyond "we're old atlas but edgier" and "hey guys here's a pic of classic conservatjve's face." With that said, the comment he made there is inexcusable, and I certainly hope that he tones it down.

You're the epitome of AAD culture, ironically.

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Fwiw, I do dislike the excessive anti-Classic Conservative stuff; I actually deleted my AAD account because their content doesn't seem to go beyond "we're old atlas but edgier" and "hey guys here's a pic of classic conservatjve's face." With that said, the comment he made there is inexcusable, and I certainly hope that he tones it down.

You're the epitome of AAD culture, ironically.

When you reply to a two day old post because you can't handle being told it's kind of racist to compare black people to apes

Dude, we're getting sick of you. I saw something that I'm sick of, and I responded. Quit trying so hard.

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cc: Irony ore mine given that it's coming from an embittered failson whose highest achievement in adult life is making the front page of r/cringe when he got his mother to comment on the size of his organ on Facebook.

What is it that makes social Darwinism so attractive to people who would almost undoubtedly be labelled as society's refuse?

What? I'd love to hear this story haha

I'd forgotten that story, but it's pretty good.