SENATE BILL: Right to Empowerment Act of 2014 (Failed)

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This bill will streamline the union recognition and unionization process, and will allow more workers to form unions.

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How does this work presently? What is the limit on the number of workers and so forth in a business that can be unionized?

As it stands, there are no limits on what businesses can be unionized and by how many workers. What this law does, in effect, is regularly schedule union elections, and thus make it easier for workers to organize unions.

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So does this effectively mean we're creating a "union year"? Can't we just make these elections the day after Labor Day or something, so we don't to create a new calendar? Or am I misunderstanding?

This bill schedules an election in all non-union workplaces a month after the beginning of a new year. I would be completely fine with changing that date around to Labor Day (which in Atlasia is May 1st, mind) if that's what the Senate would prefer on this bill.

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Even with all the rights accorded to them, some employers are going to break the law and make it hard for workers to unionize. This avoids that entirely by making sure that votes are held, whether the employers like it or not, and they've got next to no input in it. This bill would truly make the right to organize a union one that is fully protected under the law because it would give unions real equality with employers by giving them a chance at forming every single year with state aid. The state already makes it possible for corporations to form and aids them with charters and grants; why should it not to the same for labor unions?

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The idea that, even with state recognition of labor unions, labor and capital are "equal" in terms of power relations is patently absurd. Can labor move whole industries overseas, hire and fire, or make decisions on investment?

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The idea that, even with state recognition of labor unions, labor and capital are "equal" in terms of power relations is patently absurd. Can labor move whole industries overseas, hire and fire, or make decisions on investment?

No, but that's not the labor's job now, is it?

We have management for a reason. Nothing would ever get done if every single employee was making decisions, nor do many employees want to make management decisions like that. Imagine the inefficiency!

It should be labor's job.

Managers are parasites that should be ultimately replaced by elected workers' councils.

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The thing is that labor is merely one of the factors of production and managements job is combine them all into a successful enterprise. I thought your problem was with Capital, how does shooting the one who puts the puzzle pieces together acheive the desired aim?

Management is fine provided that it is democratically elected and it is accountable to the workers. Otherwise it's a police functionary of Capital.

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Yes, we all know TNF is a commie that wants to nationalize all industry, so I'm not sure why we are lecturing to him about management and profits.

I'm not sure either.

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Amendment is friendly, and I'm ready for a vote when it's been processed.

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My body is ready.

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Aye