Flynt Ready to Implicate Another Senator

[Keystone Phil]

It's going to be Casey...and then my world is turned into a very, very happy place.

[Keystone Phil]

Ok, here's my top 8 list of potential folks:

*Clarence Thomas

*Marion Berry (the former Mayor, not the Congressman)
*Scott McClellan
*Ron Klink
*Zell Miller
*Paul Wolfowitz

Maybe you didn't get the memo about this being another Senator.


And who the hell cares about Ron Klink?

[Keystone Phil]

I kinda want it to be Bob Casey Jr. just to see Phil's reaction.

Then Prepare for an 100 page thread

Nah, not necessary. If it was Casey, I'd go into celebration mode for about a week straight. In between my partying, I'd stop by the forum and create one topic and only post once. It would be quite simply really. It would go something like this...


LOL at most of the forum.

Senator Robert P. Casey, Jr.  -  January 4, 2007 - July ?, 2007


And then back to partying. You'd have no idea how great that would be. I don't think I'd be able to watch his nationally televised resignation speech. I'd be laughing too hard.

[Keystone Phil]

I kinda want it to be Bob Casey Jr. just to see Phil's reaction.

Then Prepare for an 100 page thread

Nah, not necessary. If it was Casey, I'd go into celebration mode for about a week straight. In between my partying, I'd stop by the forum and create one topic and only post once. It would be quite simply really. It would go something like this...


LOL at most of the forum.

Senator Robert P. Casey, Jr.  -  January 4, 2007 - July ?, 2007


And then back to partying. You'd have no idea how great that would be. I don't think I'd be able to watch his nationally televised resignation speech. I'd be laughing too hard.

Yes, it would be great to get him replaced with someone more liberal.

Eh, I wouldn't care all that much, to be honest with you. We could just beat them in a few years. I just want Casey, Jr's career to be finished. He is a disgrace, a sell out, etc.

[Keystone Phil]

Eh, I wouldn't care all that much, to be honest with you. We could just beat them in a few years. I just want Casey, Jr's career to be finished. He is a disgrace, a sell out, etc.

I like that you are not at all bitter about the 2006 election.

I also like how willing you are to give the man a chance because, 7 months in Congress is certainly enough time to form an opinion of his performance, right?

Yes, I am bitter. I'm going to act just like people like yourself acted towards Santorum - I'll constantly be on Casey's case. The man is a joke. He does nothing. I dislike Specter but at least that man works. He sells out to the same people his late, great father fought against. He knows what they did to that man, the trouble they tried to cause for him yet he teams up with them to bring down a Senator that Casey probably didn't even care to defeat. Casey's all about being Governor but he allowed the Dem leadership to throw him into this race. He doesn't want to be there. You're kidding yourself if you think he wants to be a Senator.

The other freshmen (especially McCaskill and Sanders) seem to be performing well.

Ok, here's my top 8 list of potential folks:

*Clarence Thomas

*Marion Berry (the former Mayor, not the Congressman)
*Scott McClellan
*Ron Klink
*Zell Miller
*Paul Wolfowitz

Maybe you didn't get the memo about this being another Senator.


And who the hell cares about Ron Klink?

Actually as I understand it there are multiple individuals, including at least one person in the executive branch.  As for Ron Klink ... well, no one cares about him but I'll be honest, I didn't like him 6 years ago (I always felt his candidacy was a wasted opportunity to boot Santorum earlier).

This thread is about implicating another Senator.

I know you don't like Ron Klink. No Dem likes Ron Klink because of his race against Santorum. However, why the hell would you put him on your top eight potential people to be implicated list? It's not relevant.

[Keystone Phil]

I hope its someone like Ted Stevens or Jim Bunning. I want it to be a senator who just needs a bit of a “push” to consider a well deserved retirement. I'd hate to see it be a young, rising star in either party. Such a waste.

Stevens would be fine, too. He needs to go.

[Keystone Phil]

Oh I agree that he would most likely prefer to be Governor, but I'd rather have him as my Senator instead of Santorum.  Look, would you rather have Dennis Kucinich as your rep or a bland Republican?

The bland Republican. But please remember that Casey isn't just a "bland" Dem. He's a sell out who did many other things to aggrivate some of us. I can understand why you don't mind him but understand where I am coming from. I love how he doesn't even want the job but let his campaign totally beat up on Santorum and his family. Very classy.

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How would Klink be likely?

[Keystone Phil]

Oh I agree that he would most likely prefer to be Governor, but I'd rather have him as my Senator instead of Santorum.  Look, would you rather have Dennis Kucinich as your rep or a bland Republican?

The bland Republican. But please remember that Casey isn't just a "bland" Dem. He's a sell out who did many other things to aggrivate some of us. I can understand why you don't mind him but understand where I am coming from. I love how he doesn't even want the job but let his campaign totally beat up on Santorum and his family. Very classy.

He beat up on Santorum's family?

That man had the ability to stop (or at least speak out against) the harassment of his family throughout the campaign. When two people were stalking the Santorum family at their residence in Penn Hills, Casey said it wasn't anyone from his campaign and didn't request that local Dem leaders stop justifying the trespassing.

We Democrats view Casey as a bland Democrat and Santorum was as an extremist (the same way you Republicans view Kucinich as an extremist).  Calling Casey a "sellout" is just sour grapes.  He is and always has been a Democrat.

Uh, I never said he wasn't a Dem. I said he sold out to the very people that attacked his father to no end. The people that silenced his father. The people that tried to destroy his father.

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Rush is a pig and I have always spoken out against how he mocked Chelsea Clinton.

I don't remember the attacks on Dukakis' wife because...uh...I was about six months old. I remember the whole rape question but that wasn't a Bush ploy. Am I missing something?



  

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Just as wrong.

  

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The woman invited attacks. She was Ms. Outspoken. In fact, she started more fights than anyone else.

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I'm not going to take "what goes around comes around" when it comes to the Santorum family since Santorum never brought others' families into question.

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Never heard of that.

[Keystone Phil]

I thought Klink was busted back in 2002 in a prostituition sting in Pittsburgh.

I never heard that one. 

LOL yeah. He definetley made that one up.

[Keystone Phil]

Here's your fyi ... during the 1988 Presidential campaign Lee Atwater (the Godfather of dirty politics) pulled out every stop.  The Republicans frequently charged that Kitty Dukakis was a drunk.  They planted stories and unabashedly used everything they could to attack the poor woman.

And, if true, I would be disgusted with the campaign for doing so.

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Except the family was there that weekend.

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It goes far beyond the Pro Life movement but I guess you forgot about that. They have literally tried to silence him on several occassions. And let's not act like the fact that he was denied a speaking spot because he was Pro Life is no big deal.

And, by the way, we would and we have allowed Pro Choice Governors and other Pro Choice elected officials to speak at our conventions.

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Bush calling Ferrero a b--ch is not as much as Heinz's antics in 2004. That woman wanted the controversy.

[Keystone Phil]

Ok, so "harassment" is, by your definition, someone creeping around your vacation home 1 weekend.  Wow ... and somehow Casey couldn't stop this pattern of harassment.

Ah, vacation home. Very cute. Anyway, yes, I would consider that harassment.

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Just because I wasn't around doesn't mean I can't know these things. Do you remember when Lincoln was President, Wakie? You were how old when he took/left office?

The convention was one example of how he was silenced and then there was the man's inaguration in 1991 when he was heckled throughout his whole address by gay rights groups because he wasn't "doing enough" to fight AIDS. Remember the PA Abortion Control Act? How did the party respond to that? They fought this man for quite some time.

Now onto the national conventions. I see that when you lose a point, you change the subject. I noted that Pro Choice officials are granted speaking roles at my party's convention but Pro Life Bob Casey was silenced. Now you say there is no reason to hold that grudge. This goes beyond not being able to speak at a convention, Wakie.

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I know that Barbara Bush has had her comments but they were nothing compared to Heinz's remarks. I guess we just won't see eye to eye on this.

[Keystone Phil]

And if someone creeping around a house one weekend is harassment you must think there is A LOT of harassment in this world.

If they are creeping around and peering into the house while the family was there that weekend? Yes, that is harassment.

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Yes, I asked you to let me know of some campaign specifics, about things we don't usually read about. I can and have read up on Casey's time as Governor so I do know things about his time in office.

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What do you mean it was "nothing of the sort?" He was refused a speaking role at the convention. Republicans that speak out against the majority of the party on an issue do face stiff opposition and that is healthy. However, I don't recall calling for them to be silenced at our convention. I'm not making the argument that it is a surprise that the Dems are Pro Choice. Now you're just pulling things out of the sky. My argument was that it was wrong to silence a man because he had a different position on the abortion issue.

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He should have still been able to speak on the issue whether he endorsed Clinton or not. We have had divided conventions before.

I can't think of a situation when a Republican was allowed to speak about abortion rights at the convention yet I also don't recall a situation in which anyone was denied a speaking slot on the issue.

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And Heinz wasn't nasty? Telling a reporter to "shove it" wasn't mean spiritied and publicly done?

[Keystone Phil]

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And yet you argue that they would be allowed?  Come on, you're being naive.

Whether they would or would not, they should be allowed is my point.