Excited for the President's address to Congress?

[Keystone Phil]

This is always one of my favorite political events. I love seeing the branches of government meet in one spot and having it aired live across the country.

This is also one of the images I have in my mind when I imagine someone becoming President. I try to picture them behind the podium/in front of the Vice President and the Speaker. After eight years of any President, I think it's weird to imagine anyone else standing there but it'll be especially odd seeing Obama there. That being said, I'm still excited.

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Aaron Schock got an aisle seat! 

And Obama jumps the gun...again. 

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By the way...

Someone want to tell me what the hell Pelosi is wearing tonight?

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I love how Specter stood for about five seconds after Obama mentioned the Stimulus Package.

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"Mess with Joe" - unpresidential.  Come on.  This is an address to Congress.  Not a campaign speech.

Eh, it was more lame than anything else.

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Uh...Nancy almost falling off the rostrum was a little much, no? This woman really needs to calm herself. What a tool.

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Scumbags. They can rot in hell.

Says the guy with the anti Catholic, dishonest, Pro Lifer hating cartoon in his signature. 

By the way, I love how Obama still has to do the campaign speech nonsense during this address. You have to love how he had to get that deficit jab in just to satisfy the hacks.

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Scumbags. They can rot in hell.

Says the guy with the anti Catholic, dishonest, Pro Lifer hating cartoon in his signature. 

By the way, I love how Obama still has to do the campaign speech nonsense during this address. You have to love how he had to get that deficit jab in just to satisfy the hacks.

It is interesting that most liberals do not believe in Hell until it is suggested to them as a reservation for Republicans.

LOL

Owned

Scumbags. They can rot in hell.

Says the guy with the anti Catholic, dishonest, Pro Lifer hating cartoon in his signature. 

By the way, I love how Obama still has to do the campaign speech nonsense during this address. You have to love how he had to get that deficit jab in just to satisfy the hacks.

I'm not in the mood to allow you to ruin another thread. Can we avoid this just for one night?

LOL

You're such a joke. "I'm not in the mood to allow you to ruin another thread."

You're a disgusting hack troll with some serious issues concerning your hatred of Catholics and Pro Lifers.

[Keystone Phil]

ABC said that they're coming back for Jindal.

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Yeah, I have to admit that Jindal's delivery is childish.

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So much for his hopes in 2012.

I really doubt that his chances for the nomination are sunk because of an address that few people will see or remember.

Wow, Piyush has been really embarassing tonight. Is this how he normally speaks?

I love when Democrats can make fun of someone's name...  

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So much for his hopes in 2012.

I really doubt that his chances for the nomination are sunk because of an address that few people will see or remember.

Wow, Piyush has been really embarassing tonight. Is this how he normally speaks?

I love when Democrats can make fun of someone's name...  

I remember Tim Kaine's name being mentioned pretty heavily for 2008 until he bombed giving a rebuttal.  2005 or 2006, I can't remember which.

No one talked about Kaine for President in 2008. No one talked about it seriously at least.

Anyway, MSNBC is a huge joke. Chris Matthews basically said that the GOP can't talk about corruption because Scooter Libby was a registered Republican. Really, Chris? That's the best you have?

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You're ignoring other things Chris and Rachel mentioned, like "Bobby" invoking Katrina as an example of why we can't depend on government. Seriously? It had nothing to do with Republicans cramming a little known independent agency called FEMA into Homeland Security to 'consolidate' government?

Actually, uh, it is a classic example as to why we can't rely totally on the government.

Of course you deliver your typical hack nonsense and give no blame to the Democratic Governor at the time.

So much for his hopes in 2012.

I really doubt that his chances for the nomination are sunk because of an address that few people will see or remember.

Wow, Piyush has been really embarassing tonight. Is this how he normally speaks?

I love when Democrats can make fun of someone's name...  

I remember Tim Kaine's name being mentioned pretty heavily for 2008 until he bombed giving a rebuttal.  2005 or 2006, I can't remember which.

No one talked about Kaine for President in 2008. No one talked about it seriously at least.

Anyway, MSNBC is a huge joke. Chris Matthews basically said that the GOP can't talk about corruption because Scooter Libby was a registered Republican. Really, Chris? That's the best you have?

Not true.  People, at least the ones I know and the pundits I read/watched, were talking about him the same way Jindal's been talked about recently.  Rising star, popular southern Gov, etc.

Uh...

No, they never spoke about Kaine like they speak about Jindal. Sure, Kaine was a rising star but he was never talked about as a Presidential candidate in 2008.

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You're ignoring other things Chris and Rachel mentioned, like "Bobby" invoking Katrina as an example of why we can't depend on government. Seriously? It had nothing to do with Republicans cramming a little known independent agency called FEMA into Homeland Security to 'consolidate' government?

Actually, uh, it is a classic example as to why we can't rely totally on the government.

Of course you deliver your typical hack nonsense and give no blame to the Democratic Governor at the time.

There was plenty of blame to go around to be sure, but people seem to forget that Government is a tool used to accomplish a goal used by the party in power.

The Democrats in Louisiana deserve some of the blame, but Bush seemed generally disinterested in the affair and FEMA (which deserves the most blame) was horrifically mismanaged and ran in the run-up to the landing of the hurricane.

I certainly won't deny that the federal end was a mess but I think we need to hear more about all levels of government that failed during that time.

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Definitely, but I'm sure you can agree that after 8 years of Republican dominance the Republican response being catered directly at railing against the recent failures of government was an unusual strategy to say the least.

Jindal made it very, very clear that Republicans fell away from what we believe and it made us susceptible to corruption. I don't see what is wrong with that.

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Definitely, but I'm sure you can agree that after 8 years of Republican dominance the Republican response being catered directly at railing against the recent failures of government was an unusual strategy to say the least.

Jindal made it very, very clear that Republicans fell away from what we believe and it made us susceptible to corruption. I don't see what is wrong with that.

So when Republicans fail it's secretly them being infected by a liberal philosophy and why we need to elect not Democrats but even more conservative Republicans?

How does that politically make sense?

Or we fell away from our fiscally responsible roots, took part in irresponsible spending sprees and, like I said, became more susceptible to corruption.

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Definitely, but I'm sure you can agree that after 8 years of Republican dominance the Republican response being catered directly at railing against the recent failures of government was an unusual strategy to say the least.

Jindal made it very, very clear that Republicans fell away from what we believe and it made us susceptible to corruption. I don't see what is wrong with that.

So when Republicans fail it's secretly them being infected by a liberal philosophy and why we need to elect not Democrats but even more conservative Republicans?

How does that politically make sense?

Or we fell away from our fiscally responsible roots, took part in irresponsible spending sprees and, like I said, became more susceptible to corruption.

I'm supposed to feel sorry for the Republicans, like they fell of the wagon, or something?

When did I ever say that?

You are quite possibly the biggest dope I've spoken to on this forum. Ever. You twist everything and change the discussion all the time.

Your right, I must have imagined it.  Thanks for the correction.

Yes, you imagined it...or you're simply confusing him with someone else. Kaine was not mentioned as a 2008 Presidential candidate. He was frequently mentioned as a potential running mate.

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Phil, before you lose control of yourself,

Hahaha...

You are the worst troll ever.




 

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I love when you do this patheticly disgusting, "Oh, all I'm saying..."

Dude, you take an argument, twist around into your hack talking points and then when I clarify, you make an even more ridiculous point.

Why would you say that Democrats did poorly? "They let Bush/the GOP/conservatives walk all over them so people hated them, too!"

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Except Republicans have actually started to...uh...take the blame. Hmmmm...who just did that tonight? I forget...

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But why should I give them any sympathy? Why should anyone care that they're sorry for (for the second time in three decades) engaging in horrifically irresponsible fiscal policy?

I want to know if you're retarded. That's first off. Yes, I seriously want an answer because...

I don't know why you think that I think the GOP deserves your sympathy. I never said or hinted at that.

You're a worthless, extremist hack. I don't care that you don't buy that the GOP "lost its way" but it obviously means something to swing voters and members of the base that were turned off by fiscal irresponsibility. The Dems basically apologized for supporting the "rush to war" and wow! They won things! Imagine that! You mean people care when parties admit "mistakes?"

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Good Lord, I'm talking about the argument in general used by the Party, this isn't personal.

I have no idea what that means.

The party isn't asking for your forgiveness. They don't care if you don't care. Really. They don't. Don't worry.

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Good Lord, I'm talking about the argument in general used by the Party, this isn't personal.

I have no idea what that means.

The party isn't asking for your forgiveness. They don't care if you don't care. Really. They don't. Don't worry.

Yes Phil because obviously I was asking the Republican Party about their thoughts towards me specifically.

Wow! Mind. Boggling. Stupidity.

Then what was this all about?

But why should I give them any sympathy?

If this wasn't about the GOP wanting you to give them your sympathy, why would you say, "Why should I give them any sympathy?"

Here's what happened: You lost badly, you have no idea what you were even arguing and now you're arguing in circles.

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So the message seems to be 'we were weak and screwed up' but vote for us again.

You know the Dems did the same thing. 

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Well, we won't agree here so whatever.