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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: April 02, 2014, 03:56:09 PM »


No, no, no, Ben Ghazi was the Kenyan real estate developer who co-founded the Whether Underground with Rev. Saul Alinsky (the pastor at Obama's church).  And more importantly, Barry Soetoro still won't release his real birth certificate which shows he was born in the country of Africa and attended a madrasa in Indochina.

I blame Acorn and Solyndra.

So the problem with healthcare.gov was that it used twenty-year old British computers?
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2014, 08:08:52 AM »

False. Does not square with the fact that the uninsured rate fell dramatically only after the exchanges opened, despite job creation comparable to the year before.

Please stop making things up and look at the data. When the exchanges opened, the unemployment rate rose by about 2% as millions of people received cancellations, and then it dropped 2.5% as all of those people scrambled to get onto the exchanges. The ~.5% are the new enrollees. They represent approximately 20%-25% of all enrollees.

Gallup begs to disagree with you:


First off, 0 people were thrown off ACA uncompliant plans in 2013. I repeat, zero, ZERO. This is because the ACA mandates did not take effect until January 1, 2014. The people who received the cancellation notices were still insured until the end of 2013. So obviously, that can't explain the spike.

Not to mention, the spike began in the first quarter of 2013, well before any of these cancellation notices even began arriving.

Not even mentioning that this data does not include the March/April surge, which has the uninsured rate going down another 2% to 13%.

Regarding your second point, if you REALLY want to go down that route, fine- just be sure to count the 5-7 million extra off-exchange enrollments in your total- that's where most cancelled policyholders went anyway.

So once again, your initial claim was false.

What's the MoE in those polls?  Even with a minimal 1% MoE, pretty much all of the changes in that graph would essentially be statistical noise.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2014, 02:50:37 PM »

If Obamacare works it's because the provisions are so onerous and irrelevant that private industry might suddenly rediscover its conscience.

You're a rare Republican in that you concede that government action can spur private companies into doing the right thing when they otherwise would not.
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