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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: April 04, 2014, 08:44:40 PM »
« edited: April 04, 2014, 08:49:59 PM by True Federalist »

What if you believe both answers as is the case for me with #3, #12, #29, and #34?

Or take for example, #6.  The two answers are:
  • Humans are by nature sinners, and God is under no obligation to save them.
  • Humans are by nature good, and God should do everything he can to help them.
My own belief is
  • Humans are by nature sinners, and God does do everything he can to help them.
Which doesn't fit either answer well.
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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 08:57:06 PM »

What if you believe both answers as is the case for me with #3.

Or take for example, #6.  The two answers are:
  • Humans are by nature sinners, and God is under no obligation to save them.
  • Humans are by nature good, and God should do everything he can to help them.
My own belief is
  • Humans are by nature sinners, and God does do everything he can to help them.
Which doesn't fit either answer well.

I had trouble with that one, as well.  I don't believe humans are sinners "by nature" (this would imply the nonexistence of free will) and I also don't believe God is under any "obligation" to "help" someone (as this implies that God only does something because He has to, which would negate any true value to doing an act of good).

It's not a perfect quiz, but I'm more or less pleased with my score.

I got 15 as well.  Since I believe sin is an inherent consequence of free will, I don't see a dichotomy between the existence of free will and that we are sinners by nature.  Similarly, God's omnibenevolence is what obligates em to help. In a very real sense, God's attributes keep him from doing "good" in the human sense because God is incapable of sin due to his lack of free will.
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 09:52:01 PM »

Perhaps, Ernest, I've been misunderstanding your views on objective morality all this time.  Do you deny that God has free will, or do you deny omnibenevolence as a real concept?
Free will is incompatible with the combination of omnibenevolence and omniscience, since one who is both omniscient and omnibenevolent knows what is the best thing to do and will always do what he can to achieve it.  Hence, God lacks free will.  Jesus Christ during the time of his ministry had human characteristics and that included free will.  If he had not had free will, then his temptation in the wilderness and later would have been a sham and a mockery.

I hold to an Adoptionist viewpoint on the nature of Jesus Christ. My current best understanding of the ministry of Jesus has him receiving the triple aspects of the Godhead at different stages. Upon being baptized he received the omnipotence of God becoming Jesus Christ. His crucifixion was the capstone of His acquisition of the omnibenevolence of God, tho one can argue whether he received it at Gethsemane or later.  It was only at his resurrection that he received the omniscience of God and the full authority to act as God in his own right by his possession of the full triune Godhead.

Also my views on omniscience, omnipotence, and omnibenevolence are that they are not unlimited.  God possesses all the knowledge, ability, and love it is possible to have, yet there are things that are beyond even God.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2014, 01:50:56 PM »
« Edited: May 18, 2014, 05:27:02 PM by True Federalist »

Anyway, I was interested to learn that believing works contribute to salvation is anti-fundamentalist

I'm surprise to hear you learned that from the quiz since that works don't contribute to salvation is a pretty basic component of Protestant—let alone fundamentalist—theology.  Of course, some people seem to miss the point that while faith alone is sufficient for salvation, faith will lead one to do good works in accordance with one's ability.
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