Hide yo' wife, hide yo' kids - they kidnappin' errebody!

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Why?  While tragic on a personal level for the people directly affected, the sad fact is that this isn't news.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Why?  While tragic on a personal level for the people directly affected, the sad fact is that this isn't news.

4 kidnapped and murdered Israeli teenagers wasn't news.  1 Palestinian kidnapped and murdered and it's thread worthy.  Rockets from Gaza, not news.  Israel kills a handful of bad guys in response, the Third Intifada just begun!  More rockets, not news.

Agreed.  They're not news.  They're titillating factoids that represent absolutely no change in what has been going on.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Why?  While tragic on a personal level for the people directly affected, the sad fact is that this isn't news.

4 kidnapped and murdered Israeli teenagers wasn't news.  1 Palestinian kidnapped and murdered and it's thread worthy.  Rockets from Gaza, not news.  Israel kills a handful of bad guys in response, the Third Intifada just begun!  More rockets, not news.

Agreed.  They're not news.  They're titillating factoids that represent absolutely no change in what has been going on.

Ignoring Gully's whinging, at what point does it become news?

When something that changes the status quo happens.  The ebb and tide of rock and rocket throwing and the events surrounding that aren't news.  Once you get settlements being evacuated, or the Zionists deciding its time to ethnically cleanse the whole West Bank (rather that simply grabbing a few pieces of land here and there) then it'll be news.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

So you don't think we should talk about the conflict until one of those things happen?  That's a bit of a high bar ain't it?

No, I think I shouldn't talk about it.  I really don't give a rip whether or not you flap your gums over this or not.  Just don't expect me to join you in wasting breath discussing this until then.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

So you don't think we should talk about the conflict until one of those things happen?  That's a bit of a high bar ain't it?

No, I think I shouldn't talk about it.  I really don't give a rip whether or not you flap your gums over this or not.  Just don't expect me to join you in wasting breath discussing this until then.

I didn't know somebody had asked you in here, they were clearly in the wrong.

Yes they were:

The thread was quiet today (despite the story not being quite), you guys must be still waiting for the next reason to pay attention to this story.  There is still hope, maybe you'll get it tomorrow!

Too close to home boys?

Just be patient, you'll have a reason to respond to this thread again...maybe in a couple of days.  Maybe even tomorrow!

My response here wasn't about the "news" from Cisjordan, but about your pleading insistence that others consider it as important as you think it is.

Devils advocate:  Was it readily apparent that the assassination of a certain Archduke would have such an impact?  The conditions are volatile enough that a small war could break out and then grow, true they are always there but all it needs is a spark. I'll quit before I mix some more metaphors and bring in other unrelated historical scenarios.

There are always sparks, and Lord knows there is plenty of tinder in the area, but I consider obsess over every spark.  It'll either catch fire or not no matter what we do, and it's not as if anyone is doing anything to change either the amount of tinder or sparks.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Wow....k....uhhhh, I hope you feel better...

Thanks, tho how did you know I'd been suffering from a summer cold?  Those are always the worst, and I even ran a bit of a temperature for a few days, but I'm over it now.  Hopefully your own feverish spell will end soon.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

As awful and indiscriminate as the Hamas attacks are, the reaction by the conniving Israeli government has been far worse and has only further shown that the colonists show less and less regard for the basic human rights of any Arab in what they consider their rightful land--the final goal being lebensraum stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates. And the Western media cheers them on while they bludgeon children to death in "self-defense", of course.

dead0man, I apologize for my earlier comments in this thread on the off chance that they may have in any way, shape, or form led to this mass of sagery appearing here.  I don't think they did, but even so, I apologize.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The Egyptian and the Americans are sharing the blame for this madness continuation. The lethargic effort to negotiate to an already known ceasefire is equally at their doorstep.

Why on earth is it anybody's fault but that of the Israelis and of Hamas that y'all are fighting?  Frankly, the sooner everybody directly involved realizes that a lasting peace can only come from within and not from without, the sooner that a lasting peace might be able to happen.  Bribing and/or cajoling people into doing what they already know they need to do doesn't solve the problem, it only masks the symptoms.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

All I've seen in the news is that Egypt has proposed a ceasefire, but not that either side has indicated they would consider it, tho I think Hamas would have to be utter fools not to do so before the Israelis invade Gaza.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Since a Hamas rocket finally managed to kill someone, they might possibly be willing now to accept a cease fire, but I doubt Israel would now.  Don't really think Hamas would either.  Hamas seems to have decided that they need a ground invasion to be able save face now. Idiots!