Study: Lesbian Couples Twice as Likely to Divorce as Gay Couples

[Gustaf]

There's virtually no motivation to stay together when neither party wants sex and only wants to take advantage of the other.

Not all women are paid prostitutes, old chap.

[Gustaf]

Bold prediction: This thread will not end well

Apparently the entire point of view expressed by myself (see the deleted post above) and Lewis Trondheim is completely disallowed from the forum:

Simply that without a gullible, dick-led man in the relationship, a lesbian marriage is simply two con-artists trying to get the better of the other:  rather a dead end.

You make the faulty assumption that your poor experiences with women and inability to have normal relationships is due to some general failings of humanity and the world. But I'm afraid it's more to do with you.

See, in my experience women enjoy sex rather a lot. And don't try to rip you off. And I on my side don't want relationships just for the sex either.

It makes sense that you would get this idea if all your intimate interaction comes from prostitutes, but you need to realize that you are being extremely narrow-minded and naive.

[Gustaf]

I never said they mightn't 'do it well' (a subjective and ephemeral concept anway).  What I was pointing out is the motivations for engaging in the relationship at all are sorely lacking.  In a m-f relationship the male gets a bit of sex and the woman gets all she trades for the sex... in a m-m relationship they both get sex... and in a f-f relationship what do they get?

sex

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You're being silly.  I never base my analysis on anecdotal evidence - in fact like anyone else, women appeared to 'want sex' with me when I was young, and it still occurs very rarely.  The point is you look at the structure of society - the evidence is that they hardly want it at all compared to men in general. 

You make the faulty assumption that your poor experiences with women and inability to have normal relationships is due to some general failings of humanity and the world. But I'm afraid it's more to do with you.

See, in my experience women enjoy sex rather a lot. And don't try to rip you off. And I on my side don't want relationships just for the sex either.

It makes sense that you would get this idea if all your intimate interaction comes from prostitutes, but you need to realize that you are being extremely narrow-minded and naive.

You're being just as silly as drj.  My relationships with women have been excellent, above the average I'm quite sure.  Lots of pretty girlfriends when I was young.

I'm basing my analysis on looking at society, not my own anecdotal experience.  Open your eyes and look around you, Gustaf.  You are like I was young, rich, etc.  Look at how the whole world works, and think about your own future, don't just look right in front of your sex-addled nose.

Since female sexuality is generally so repressed it's probably true that they want it a bit less on average in the status quo. That's a far cry from your statement, that women trade sex for money in relationships. But, sure, cite your evidence then, if you have it.

I think that if you had had as great a time with women as you claim you wouldn't despise them so much. But I'll admit that it's almost as speculative from me as your entire worldview.

[Gustaf]

I thought marriage was based on love and commitment, not a desire for sex? If it's the latter I'd think you would expect promiscuity and high divorce rates. Having sex with the same person over and over again must become tiring.

No offense, but as a self-identified asexual you may not be the best judge of this, to be honest. Sex can be varied in a lot of different ways and variety is not always what one values the most anyway.

[Gustaf]

I thought marriage was based on love and commitment, not a desire for sex? If it's the latter I'd think you would expect promiscuity and high divorce rates. Having sex with the same person over and over again must become tiring.

No offense, but as a self-identified asexual you may not be the best judge of this, to be honest. Sex can be varied in a lot of different ways and variety is not always what one values the most anyway.

Well it can be 'tiring'. But not in the way he thinks

Haha, that is a very true point. I have both experienced and caused sexual OD and it's not as fun as one would imagine.