MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25 (user search)
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2017, 10:15:54 PM »

Marty is always sharing hearsay and late-breaking commentary that is found later to be false - disregard. Somebody needs to stay off the Twitter.
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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2017, 10:34:12 PM »

The NYT numbers seem... weird. For instance, both the NYT and the MT SOS report the same number of votes in Missoula, but the NYT says that 32/52 precincts are in while the MT SOS says that zero are. Is the NYT trying to estimate the percentage of the early vote to election day voters, or is something messed up with their reporting?

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/montana-house-special-election
http://mtelectionresults.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=FED

Never pay any attention to NYT's "precincts reporting" stat.
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2017, 10:34:57 PM »


I'm allowed to blow off a little steam after being browbeat for 7 months over how any Democrat but Clinton would have wiped the board. Bernie woulda won. Biden woulda won. Obama woulda won. O'Malley woulda won. It was a rejection of HER. She wasn't far left enough. yada yada yada nonstop.

No, you're not, considering you adopted the very same shtick just a few months ago.
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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2017, 10:37:02 PM »

Guys, remember quist isn't exactly prince charming here. Yea, he didn't assault anyone, but he has some major sketchy background issues. It probably turned a lot of potential voters away.

Almost everybody who lives in Montana (excluding Nat-Ams) is either a dirty rancher, a vagrant or a hippie. I'm not sure why the "I take showers at truck stops" or "all organic gluten-free" crowds would be turned off.
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2017, 10:40:37 PM »

Is it fair to consider Quist's failure a failure of Bernie's populist angle? Quist had a lot of baggage of his own. He wasn't the best candidate for this race.

Can we please not start this discussion in here right now? We just got rid of Beet, ffs.
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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2017, 10:54:06 PM »

Based on what MT SOS says is fully reporting:

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« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2017, 11:23:29 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2017, 11:26:37 PM »

I even thought Quist was a shoo-in after last night, but I'm happy that the Montana voters realized that a vote for Quist was a vote for 3000 murders a day, regardless of any personal flaws in Gianforte.  And, we're not trying to elect our pastor or role model, but rather someone who will vote to lead our country in the right direction, and I am confident that Gianforte will vote in the right way.

>Proceeds to repeat religious claptrap
>Says we don't need religion dictating our candidates' behaviors
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2017, 11:28:31 PM »

10k votes just dumped; 50.4-43.7.

BTW the MT SOS seems to be ahead of DDHQ now: http://mtelectionresults.gov/resultsSW.aspx?type=FED&map=CTY
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« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2017, 11:41:11 PM »

Suburban whites across the board are more liberal then rural whites, since a good portion of them are college educated.

If by "I love gay marriage", then sure. If we're talking about basic economically redistributionary policies that have historically been the cornerstone of the Democratic Party, absolutely not.
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« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2017, 11:50:01 PM »

2014 turnout: 367,963
2016 turnout (est 80% of vote counted): 339,892
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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2017, 11:51:24 PM »

Piano's down to a 6.4-point lead.
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« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2017, 11:59:03 PM »

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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2017, 12:12:01 AM »

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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2017, 12:22:51 AM »

Nice maps Griffin! If you don't mind, I (and I'm sure many others) would like to see a Governor '16 to House '17 swing map (to show where and how much Gianforte did better/worse).

I'll get around to it shortly.

I know this is probably too much to ask for, but would you mind doing a 2014-2017 trend map, Adam? I might give it a try as well, but your maps are 100 times better than mine.

A trend map, or do you mean a swing map?
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Adam Griffin
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E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2017, 12:46:17 AM »

Nice maps Griffin! If you don't mind, I (and I'm sure many others) would like to see a Governor '16 to House '17 swing map (to show where and how much Gianforte did better/worse).

I'll get around to it shortly.

I know this is probably too much to ask for, but would you mind doing a 2014-2017 trend map, Adam? I might give it a try as well, but your maps are 100 times better than mine.

A trend map, or do you mean a swing map?

A trend map would be really nice, but it might take too much time, right? Tongue

Maybe I'm a tad too drunk, but I'm trying to think of how to even do that? Would we compare MT 2014 against the national House PV for 2014, and then stack that up against the 2017 margins (no trend for 2017)?
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2017, 12:50:32 AM »

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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2017, 01:20:43 AM »

Maybe I'm a tad too drunk, but I'm trying to think of how to even do that? Would we compare MT 2014 against the national House PV for 2014, and then stack that up against the 2017 margins (no trend for 2017)?

Comparing the county results against the statewide results. I was thinking about something like this:

2014: Statewide margin: R+15, Yellowstone margin: R+21.5
2017: Statewide margin: R+7, Yellowstone margin: R+19

--> The state swung 8 points to the left from 2014-2017, but Yellowstone County swung only 2.5 points Democratic. Hence, Yellowstone trended 5.5 points Republican.

Well for now, this is all you're getting. Tongue

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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2017, 01:31:28 AM »

Looks like we're gonna beat 2014 turnout (200 votes short right now): GOP at 92% of 2014 numbers and Dems at 107%.

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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2017, 01:31:58 AM »

Sorry for the dublicate posts everyone, I was having wifi troubles.

Are you sure it's not the site? I've been having a hell of a wait time posting the last hour or so

It's the site - it's been lagging for a couple of hours now. I had a post that it said timed out or whatever but still ended up posting.
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Adam Griffin
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E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2017, 01:52:07 AM »

If I had to guess, this will be the final result:

GIANFORTE   206500   49.05%
QUIST      190500   45.25%
WICKS      24000   5.70%
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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2017, 01:57:44 AM »

S[inks]t guys, my 14/17 House swing map is completely wrong - I was looking at the Senate results instead. At any rate, I'll update the image label so that it accurately portrays what it's showing.

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Adam Griffin
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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2017, 09:50:36 AM »

Did mail ballots actually end up being 70% of all votes cast, or was it lower?
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