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« on: May 22, 2016, 11:57:43 AM »


I think it's about right. That scares me a lot, but I'm not going to dismiss it because I don't like the result.

Clinton is stumbling right now.

She needs to demonstrate her skill as a politician with Sanders and his supporters, and cut a deal that strengthens her ticket for the fall and brings them enthusiastically on board so the Dems can focus on TrumpMiller. And speaking of the immature psychopathic fascist dog-whistler, she needs to stop making her main line of attack that his politics are wrong, and swap over to educating the whole nation on just what a terrible human being he is, and what an awful president he'd make. Attacking him on gun rights and similar political staples is just going to help him.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 01:46:45 PM »

We need to jackhammer away with males. She's doing so horribly and male voters are the least likely to sway back and forth. If we can get too many whites to vote against her, all she will have is the McGovern rainbow coalition.

LOL.
We have so many Republicans and trump followers here on Atlas, saying that they hate when the "other side" keeps claiming that the trump campaign is nothing but "white male" voters.
Yet, you have a Pub here, advocating this EXACT campaign strategy. And to just forget about everyone else, including people of color ('the McGovern rainbow coalition").


I'm not proud of the divisions of our country, but this is a campaign, dammit. If I were in charge of Trump's campaign, I'd carpet-bomb the airwaves with Hillary barking, Hillary's coal comment, Hillary's liberal positions. The most unflattering images. Lee Atwater style. WEAK. WEAK. WEAK. In politics, it's about repetition. Trump strong, Hillary weak. Hillary hurts, Trump wins. Over and over and over.

It may not work with all voters, but this certainly has the feel of a change election. Hillary isn't change, Trump is, and that should terrify Hillary supporters.


I will be among the first to admit that I am indeed terrified at the prospect of a vile and idiotic psychopath who regularly dog-whistles the Horst-Wessel-Lied being elected President of the United States. (I have a great deal of empathy for people who don't want to vote for Hillary Clinton, but anyone actively supporting her near-certain Republican opponent is spitting on everything good and decent in Western Civilization.)
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 02:18:28 PM »


I think it's about right. That scares me a lot, but I'm not going to dismiss it because I don't like the result.

Clinton is stumbling right now.

She needs to demonstrate her skill as a politician with Sanders and his supporters, and cut a deal that strengthens her ticket for the fall and brings them enthusiastically on board so the Dems can focus on TrumpMiller. And speaking of the immature psychopathic fascist dog-whistler, she needs to stop making her main line of attack that his politics are wrong, and swap over to educating the whole nation on just what a terrible human being he is, and what an awful president he'd make. Attacking him on gun rights and similar political staples is just going to help him.

But has she been stumbling though? Nothing has happened in the last month to say she has stumbled. She has said or done nothing controversial on the campaign trail. What we have had is 24/7 coverage of Trump and him securing the nomination. These polls are less about Clinton stumbling and more about Trump coalescing.

Maybe stumbling isn't quite the right word. Clinton is not quite where she needs to be, where she ought to easily be, given the circumstances. Instead seems to be stuck, unable to put away Bernie, and making poor choices in attacking Trump. (She really needs to define him as an evil idiot ASAP, although maybe she's waiting until post-convention when it will be too late for the Republicans to get a different nominee.)
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2016, 06:23:02 PM »

The CNN interview of Trump from the eightees shows him saying more or less the same things he is now. While he clearly doesn't care about social issues I don't think he's a liberal in disguise. And can we please stop with the "people who don't agree with me are uneducated Hicks" crap? Like Trump has lots of flaws but people can have differing opinions without being dumb. Are you liberals too insecure to admit that?

Differing opinions? Sure. I can absolutely understand why an intelligent person would sincerely support Brian Sandoval, Paul Ryan, Scott Walker, Jeb Bush or even Ted Cruz for the highest office in the land.

Trump is a willfully ignorant psychopathic con-man with an ego the size of one of his construction projects. Anyone deliberately voting for him is stupid, evil, or both.
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