Mark B Graham 2016 on line town meeting forum

[Flake]

Yesterday you had stated that, not only was Barack Obama the worst President of your life time, but even President George W. Bush was more successful than him, and the reasons for that were trying to change the constitution, the Iran sanctions, and forcing people to get a healthcare plan.

According to the Cato Institute, President Bush had tried to expand the rights of the federal government much more than President Obama, attempting to regulate political speech, and restrict it the days before a federal election, to strip anyone the President himself deems as a terrorist of their constitutional rights, and a government to supervise every aspect of American life. The lifting of some of the sanctions was necessary to prevent a conflict between Iran and Israel, and I think you'd agree with me that nuclear war is not something you'd want. We also see President Obama's ACA that makes it necessary for people to purchase health insurance or face a penalty, and it was originally proposed by the Heritage Foundation in the early 90's (not too long after the Reagan era you admire), and was supported by conservatives. I believe that the law didn't go far enough, as I'd like to see a healthcare system more similar to the versions that Canada or the United Kingdom use. The law is certainly better than our "system" in the past (we had none), and it would be sad to see many of the good laws that Obamacare put into place, such as making sure men and women paid the same price for the same healthcare plan, that people with pre-existing conditions such as asthma or bronchitis could get the health coverage they need. It prevents health care frauds (a la Rick Scott), it provides tax breaks to small businesses and made sure seniors don't pay as enormous amounts of money for their drugs.

President Obama has been a very successful President as well. He's actually been the smallest government spender since Eisenhower according to Forbes.  After Bush's disastrous policies which were the precursor to the Great Recession, President Obama instituted policies that brought us out of the recession, most importantly the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (the stimulus, which created and sustained 2,100,000 jobs, grew the economy by nearly 4%, oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 than during the entire presidency of George W. Bush, and oversaw bailouts that saved millions of jobs in the automotive industry. He's also been a great fighter for American consumers, passing acts that prevent financial fraud or from deceptive credit card practices. The policies he's signed saved the jobs of 300,000 educators, passing the largest financial overhaul of Wall Street since the Great Depression, he ended a war, and has committed to veterans.

My point is: why do you really think President Obama has been the worst President of your lifetime when there's so many great examples (such as Bush 41 and 43)?

[Flake]

Yesterday you had stated that, not only was Barack Obama the worst President of your life time, but even President George W. Bush was more successful than him, and the reasons for that were trying to change the constitution, the Iran sanctions, and forcing people to get a healthcare plan.

According to the Cato Institute, President Bush had tried to expand the rights of the federal government much more than President Obama, attempting to regulate political speech, and restrict it the days before a federal election, to strip anyone the President himself deems as a terrorist of their constitutional rights, and a government to supervise every aspect of American life. The lifting of some of the sanctions was necessary to prevent a conflict between Iran and Israel, and I think you'd agree with me that nuclear war is not something you'd want. We also see President Obama's ACA that makes it necessary for people to purchase health insurance or face a penalty, and it was originally proposed by the Heritage Foundation in the early 90's (not too long after the Reagan era you admire), and was supported by conservatives. I believe that the law didn't go far enough, as I'd like to see a healthcare system more similar to the versions that Canada or the United Kingdom use. The law is certainly better than our "system" in the past (we had none), and it would be sad to see many of the good laws that Obamacare put into place, such as making sure men and women paid the same price for the same healthcare plan, that people with pre-existing conditions such as asthma or bronchitis could get the health coverage they need. It prevents health care frauds (a la Rick Scott), it provides tax breaks to small businesses and made sure seniors don't pay as enormous amounts of money for their drugs.

President Obama has been a very successful President as well. He's actually been the smallest government spender since Eisenhower according to Forbes.  After Bush's disastrous policies which were the precursor to the Great Recession, President Obama instituted policies that brought us out of the recession, most importantly the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (the stimulus, which created and sustained 2,100,000 jobs, grew the economy by nearly 4%, oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 than during the entire presidency of George W. Bush, and oversaw bailouts that saved millions of jobs in the automotive industry. He's also been a great fighter for American consumers, passing acts that prevent financial fraud or from deceptive credit card practices. The policies he's signed saved the jobs of 300,000 educators, passing the largest financial overhaul of Wall Street since the Great Depression, he ended a war, and has committed to veterans.

My point is: why do you really think President Obama has been the worst President of your lifetime when there's so many great examples (such as Bush 41 and 43)?

First of all if you are going to quote me  get it right this is what I said
Quote from: tara gilesbie on April 29, 2015, 05:30:26 pm
Who is the greatest president ever in your opinion?
I believe it was Ronald Reagan and  the worse was Barack Hussein Obama
Why has Obama ignored Climate Change til this year.Why has unemployment still high when companies are laying off by the 1000's .I can go on and on

That is not all the Americans money he waiste going on vacation every time you turn around

You had said:

Why do you believe President Obama has been a poorer President than President Bush?

Well trying to change the Constitution.Making and lifting of sactions with Iran sanctions .Forcing the American people to get a health care plan or be fined .Over using the power as President in the White House

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He's had fewer vacation days than the last few two-term Presidents at that many days in office. He's at 1/3 of the vacation days that Reagan had actually took.

[Flake]

Yesterday you had stated that, not only was Barack Obama the worst President of your life time, but even President George W. Bush was more successful than him, and the reasons for that were trying to change the constitution, the Iran sanctions, and forcing people to get a healthcare plan.

According to the Cato Institute, President Bush had tried to expand the rights of the federal government much more than President Obama, attempting to regulate political speech, and restrict it the days before a federal election, to strip anyone the President himself deems as a terrorist of their constitutional rights, and a government to supervise every aspect of American life. The lifting of some of the sanctions was necessary to prevent a conflict between Iran and Israel, and I think you'd agree with me that nuclear war is not something you'd want. We also see President Obama's ACA that makes it necessary for people to purchase health insurance or face a penalty, and it was originally proposed by the Heritage Foundation in the early 90's (not too long after the Reagan era you admire), and was supported by conservatives. I believe that the law didn't go far enough, as I'd like to see a healthcare system more similar to the versions that Canada or the United Kingdom use. The law is certainly better than our "system" in the past (we had none), and it would be sad to see many of the good laws that Obamacare put into place, such as making sure men and women paid the same price for the same healthcare plan, that people with pre-existing conditions such as asthma or bronchitis could get the health coverage they need. It prevents health care frauds (a la Rick Scott), it provides tax breaks to small businesses and made sure seniors don't pay as enormous amounts of money for their drugs.

President Obama has been a very successful President as well. He's actually been the smallest government spender since Eisenhower according to Forbes.  After Bush's disastrous policies which were the precursor to the Great Recession, President Obama instituted policies that brought us out of the recession, most importantly the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (the stimulus, which created and sustained 2,100,000 jobs, grew the economy by nearly 4%, oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 than during the entire presidency of George W. Bush, and oversaw bailouts that saved millions of jobs in the automotive industry. He's also been a great fighter for American consumers, passing acts that prevent financial fraud or from deceptive credit card practices. The policies he's signed saved the jobs of 300,000 educators, passing the largest financial overhaul of Wall Street since the Great Depression, he ended a war, and has committed to veterans.

My point is: why do you really think President Obama has been the worst President of your lifetime when there's so many great examples (such as Bush 41 and 43)?

First of all if you are going to quote me  get it right this is what I said
Quote from: tara gilesbie on April 29, 2015, 05:30:26 pm
Who is the greatest president ever in your opinion?
I believe it was Ronald Reagan and  the worse was Barack Hussein Obama
Why has Obama ignored Climate Change til this year.Why has unemployment still high when companies are laying off by the 1000's .I can go on and on

That is not all the Americans money he waiste going on vacation every time you turn around

You had said:

Why do you believe President Obama has been a poorer President than President Bush?

Well trying to change the Constitution.Making and lifting of sactions with Iran sanctions .Forcing the American people to get a health care plan or be fined .Over using the power as President in the White House

and



He's had fewer vacation days than the last few two-term Presidents at that many days in office. He's at 1/3 of the vacation days that Reagan had actually took.

I think a President should have a set amount of days for vacation per year.1) it will save the tax payers money .2)it will save the cost of man power what it takes to set and operate a vacation .3) the president is there to work for the people not when he decides he wants to

But you had stated that was one of the reasons Obama was the worst President of your lifetime, even when those you consider in higher regards have worse track records than our President.