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Simfan34
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« on: March 04, 2015, 02:09:19 PM »

Well, technically speaking if Constantinople were to be returned to anyone it would be the "Romans" of the Byzantine Empire, which we call "Greek" but a great many of whom have in actually ended up as Turks. Certainly the many of the Kayserler-i-Rum, who were frequently half-Polish, half-Greek, half-Albanian, and such, would agree with me. Certainly, the million-odd Greeks who "remained" in the Ottoman Empire by its end could not account for all of the Greeks who once populated Anatolia. As there's no record they all went somewhere else, it's apparent they at some point(s) ceased being Greek and became Turkish. To say nothing of the Ottomans in Greece.

So it could be said that "Kostantiniyye" remains in the hands of its rightful owners. But I suspect that Kemalism invalidates much of what I've just said. Either way, no, the city of Istanbul should not be handed over to the Hellenic Republic since I imagine most of its residents would not like to live in said country.
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Simfan34
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2015, 02:19:57 PM »

Well, technically speaking if Constantinople were to be returned to anyone it would be the "Romans" of the Byzantine Empire, which we call "Greek" but a great many of whom have in actually ended up as Turks. Certainly the many of the Kayserler-i-Rum, who were frequently half-Polish, half-Greek, half-Albanian, and such, would agree with me. Certainly, the million-odd Greeks who "remained" in the Ottoman Empire by its end could not account for all of the Greeks who once populated Anatolia. As there's no record they all went somewhere else, it's apparent they at some point(s) ceased being Greek and became Turkish. To say nothing of the Ottomans in Greece.

So it could be said that "Kostantiniyye" remains in the hands of its rightful owners. But I suspect that Kemalism invalidates much of what I've just said. Either way, no, the city of Istanbul should not be handed over to the Hellenic Republic since I imagine most of its residents would not like to live in said country. In any case I'm glad that I've been given an opportunity to spout my "Turks are Greeks and Greeks are Turks" theory.

While I'm still on my soapbox, can I just ask what the hell is going on with the Turkish letter "C"?  Seeing that as the phonemics of the Turkish alphabet are broadly similar to those of most other Latin alphabets, where did this one flagrant exception come from, and why was it decided that this was a good idea? Even "X", which they don't use, would have been less disingenuous. It may be worse than Kiribati.
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