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« on: March 07, 2013, 03:29:16 PM »

It looks like us anti-SSM types will be the equivalent of your racist grandfather in about 20 years.

I'm glad you admit it Smiley You'll either be classified along the 'I just don't like them n-ggers/queers' category or the 'BUT THE BIBLE SAYS about the n-ggers/queers...cos o' JESUS!!!' category of loon.

WTF?!  That's a bit harsh isn't it?  We really need to stop comparing someone suggesting civil unions to hundreds of years of slaver, rape, murder, etc.  I mean c'mon.

I personally have a very traditional view of marriage.  But I realize heterosexuals have all but destroyed traditional marriage and I have other things to do with my time other than tell people who they can and cannot marry.

It's interesting that views of gay marriage seem to be progressing much, much faster than views on interracial marriage, which was still opposed by about half the country into the early 1990s. I wonder why that is.

Yes it is kind of surprising.  While every culture on the planet that I know of either never had gay marriage or in fact had specific prohibitions against it prohibitions on interracial marriage were a rather new development.  The racists really did a good.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2013, 03:48:32 PM »

Racism is far more engrained in humans than anti-gay.  Not. Even. Close.
I'm not so sure about that. What's your initial reaction to this guy?


Veering off topic here but just because a man looks feminine doesn't mean he is gay.  And just because a guy is gay doesn't mean he feminine.  I would much rather hang out with a masculine gay guy than a really feminine heterosexual guy.

Plus different cultures value different things.  Some cultures breed men that would be considered feminine by other cultures.  That has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Also worth pointing out in the gay marriage v. anti-mixed race marriage laws. The latter only told the public they couldn't marry those people. But plenty of fish in the sea. Maybe you'll find somebody. The former means gays can't get married at all. Neither is just, but it's a key distinction that never gets made.

Well for many of us that really isn't a distinction.  If you are gay you are incapable of having children.  There are a growing number of us who have no utility for marriage beyond procreation.  I understand heterosexuals getting married and not having children as much as I understand gay marriage... which is to say I have zero understanding of it.  Doesn't mean I would fight against either though.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2013, 03:58:37 PM »
« Edited: March 07, 2013, 04:16:04 PM by Link »

1. That's Chris Crocker, of "Leave Britney Alone!!!" fame. It's public knowledge that he's gay.

Is it really a bad thing that I didn't know that?!


no.

I have my views.  I clearly stated that I have no desire to impose them on other people.  Also a heterosexual couple without children is very easy to explain to a five year old.
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2013, 04:07:18 PM »

I have my views.  I clearly stated that I have no desire to impose them on other people.  Also a heterosexual couple without children is very easy to explain to a five year old.

So is a gay couple, actually, if you've ever bothered to try.

I have no children.  Why would I speak to someone else's five year old about sexuality?  Is this an activity you engage in often?
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2013, 05:37:36 PM »

I have my views.  I clearly stated that I have no desire to impose them on other people.  Also a heterosexual couple without children is very easy to explain to a five year old.

So is a gay couple, actually, if you've ever bothered to try.

I have no children.  Why would I speak to someone else's five year old about sexuality?  Is this an activity you engage in often?
I wouldn't explain hetero sexuality to a five year old either.

Neither would I.  At least we agree on that.



I think it is more about a lot of people just realizing it's not worth fighting over.  After all the scandals with allegedly heterosexual priests, tele evangelists, and politicians I think there is a large segment of the society that has wised up and is simply not willing to go to war at the polls just because a hypocritical politician or preacher told them to.  When Rick Perry presides over an epidemic of teen pregnancy in Texas, it really is hard to believe him when he says the problem is the gays.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2013, 05:47:29 PM »

A young cousin asked around about who an unfamiliar guest at a family affair was. I told him she was another (female) cousin's girlfriend, which she was. That was the end of the conversation. Nobody brought sexuality into it at all.

In this debate I don't think it is proper to trivialize the love that homosexuals have for one another.  At the same time I don't think it is correct to trivialize the very real concerns some heterosexuals have.  None of this is worth going to war over, but that doesn't mean there are not valid concerns on both sides.
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