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smoltchanov
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« on: September 05, 2013, 03:17:36 AM »

Well, i like him. Let's see what will be next. Whether Republicans will find a good candidate (i doubt), what will happen in Democratic primary, and so on..
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2013, 01:53:26 AM »

I think this says more about how much harder it is for liberal Republicans to rebuild their career after leaving their party than it is for conservative Democrats.

The success rate for conservative Democrats who became Republicans is a lot higher in terms of staying in office and/or moving on to higher offices. Louisiana is basically run by former conservative Democrats; so is Georgia. Mississippi, Alabama and Oklahoma have plenty of them in their state houses too.

But if you go to New England or the West Coast or other places where liberal and moderate Republicans were a dime a dozen 50 years ago, they're not still around existing as Democrats. They usually stay with their party and retire or get defeated for reelection. If they do leave, it's to become an independent (Lowell Weicker, Jim Jeffords) and usually they can manage to win one election that way.

But the liberal Republicans who become Democrats have always fallen flat. John Lindsay's spectacularly bad tenure as the Liberal/Democratic Mayor of New York is the worst case I can think of. Ogden Reid's career basically ended after he left the GOP. Add Lincoln Chafee to the list.

Not too surprising. In many Southern states (especially - in DEEP South) there was virtually no Republican party before an exodus of conservative Democrats from their "new", more liberal, Democratic party. So, there was, virtually, almost no intraparty competition for influence and power (there were some exceptions, like Holshouser-Gardner governor primary in 1972 in North Carolina, but that's an exception caused by existence of "old Mountain Republicanism" in Virginia, North Carolina and Tennessee). On the contrary, most of the North-Eastern states, where moderate-to-liberal Republicans migrated to Democratic party, had vibrant Democratic party before that, so competition was fierce, and, thus, the transition went much less smoothly.
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 04:18:30 AM »

Considering the composition of the Legislature, how strong is the Governor of RI really?

Rhode Island is a one party state. Many people who would run as Republicans in other states run as Democrats here. Due to that, our last governor was able to get many conservative tax policies passed. It's kind of a good situation for Republicans. They can get their agenda passed and when it fails they can blame it on the Democrats.

Hell, just last year the legislature passed a voter ID law, and that's unheard of in other states controlled by Democrats. In addition, all of the opposition to marriage equality earlier this year came from Democrats.

But why is all that so tenable though? Is it because Rhode Island requires a 2/3 supermajority vote in the legislature to pass the state budget? You'd figure a lot of these DINOs would get primaried.

I've always assumed Rhode Island was to the left of a state like Connecticut yet on the state level...

They were (not all, but many) in 2012. Most - survived. So, probably, voters support them.
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 03:09:13 AM »

It appears the Democrats will finally win back the governorship for the first time since 1992.

Well, may be. But Fung is a serious candidate, and if he convinces popular Avedisian to run with him for Lt. Governor - they will have chances. Up to now AFAIK Fung only lost once (and very narrowly), while Avedisian seems to be undefeated)))
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smoltchanov
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2013, 02:29:17 PM »

The LG is elected independently separately from the governor and both have been from different political parties.



I know that. Nevertheless such ticket, headed by 2 rather popular mayors of "big" (by Rhode Island standards) cities, would likely be rather strong.
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