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« on: October 01, 2012, 01:10:58 AM »

Isn't it ironic for Napoleon to call TPP a personality cult and not based on ideology? The only parties in this game with ideology are Labor and Whigs/IB.
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2012, 02:09:22 AM »

Isn't it ironic for Napoleon to call TPP a personality cult and not based on ideology? The only parties in this game with ideology are Labor and Whigs/IB.

If I had to determine the ideology of the Labor Party by looking at your Senators' proposals to put right-to-work in the constitution, lower the minimum wage, and restrict a woman's choice, would you stand by that statement?

I have long supported a strong and meaningful party system. It's quite unfortunate that it is an unattainable goal. I wasn't a big fan of the Silly Party, but they were big enough to elect people, and I didn't much care for the nonideological party that put up Jbrase and Benconstine at the same time basically running against each other on every issue.

First of all the ideology of Labor party can be summed up in one sentence - promoting labor's interests. The support of right-to-work legislation by one of our Senator's brought quite a nasty scandal to us, because most of the members interpret that as an attack on ideological beliefs of the party. Btw, I am not aware of anyone supporting lowering the minimum wage in our party. And the last example is simply frivolous as it has nothing to do with our ideology.

If i started bringing up examples of ideologically conflicting proposals brought by members of  the Liberal party, we wouldn't be done tonight.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2013, 01:23:39 AM »

Also, both in PMs and in interviews, you seem to always be trying to smear me by using other people's words..."who wish to remain anonymous." It's getting a little old. I'm getting really sick of this undercover, PM-driven smear campaign that has been going on against me ever since I vetoed the abortion bill. I'm tired of it.

Don't worry - your wishes may be coming true real soon.

I'm not smearing anyone and I'm not going to tell you who the Atlasians who I've talked to are because when someone trusts me not to make their PM public, I don't violate that trust, even when it might be convenient for me to do so.  I came forward and put myself out there because this needed to be said.  I'd encourage others to come forward, but that's there choice not mine.  If they don't want to, I understand and will not violate the trust that was placed.  There's a principle involved there!  I am aware that this may make it harder for me to make my case, but I said I wouldn't make the names public and so I won't.  

And again, I'm not smearing you, if I wanted to do that we both know that I could have talked about a lot more.  But I don't want to smear you, I don't deal in smears.  I was fair, but I was also honest and blunt.  I still maintain that you were a phenomenal Governor prior to the TPP-Liberal-Labor coalition getting a supermajority and I'll defend your record during that period against anyone who says otherwise.  I always acknowledged that the far-left in the supermajority also bares some of the blame.  But I am also accurately describing what happened after they got the supermajority and it doesn't reflect well on you.  The saddest part of this whole mess for me remains the fact that for a while I considered you to be my best forum friend.  I still don't think your a bad guy.  But I'd simply be lying if I didn't say that there is a real dark side to you in Atlasia.  What I said in the interview needed to be said and if I didn't have the courage to come forward, why should anyone else?  Btw, I held out hope that you would revert back to the pre-supermajority Tmth and voted to reelect you, but things didn't change Sad  And eventually, one has to face facts.  
Are you trying to blame Labor? I don't think there is a far-left in Mideast though, almost all the radical Labour members and other far left independents/members of minor far-left parties are spread out through IDS/NE/Pacific.
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2013, 03:28:56 AM »

Awesome!
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