Do you support capitalism?

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

Until the human race becomes a race of cyborgs or invents replicators/transporters, capitalism is the best system of exchange for a flawed world.

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

Hard no. Will never support it.
Capitalism is the main reason we suffer from environmental stress conditions and climate change now. In my belief you can't be pro-market liberal / pro-capitalist and pro-action against climate change. It simply doesn't work. If it would, action would already have been taken. Liberals in my country don't do anything for the environment & climate. The problem with capitalism is that it leads to overproduction and overconsumption while we need to focus on a sustainable society. Why should everyone have a car, if we can invest in public transport. Why should everyone have tons of books, if we have a library where you can basically rent it for free. That's the principle thought behind it.

Because people like owning things? Like a house or taking care of something that's theirs alone? If I had to work in some Marxist factory for just some bread lines and the "greater good of the society" - I'd definitely go insane or just jump off a cliff.

[Rules for me, but not for thee]

Hard no. Will never support it.
Capitalism is the main reason we suffer from environmental stress conditions and climate change now. In my belief you can't be pro-market liberal / pro-capitalist and pro-action against climate change. It simply doesn't work. If it would, action would already have been taken. Liberals in my country don't do anything for the environment & climate. The problem with capitalism is that it leads to overproduction and overconsumption while we need to focus on a sustainable society. Why should everyone have a car, if we can invest in public transport. Why should everyone have tons of books, if we have a library where you can basically rent it for free. That's the principle thought behind it.

Because people like owning things? Like a house or taking care of something that's theirs alone? If I had to work in some Marxist factory for just some bread lines and the "greater good of the society" - I'd definitely go insane or just jump off a cliff.

There is nothing wrong in that, but i'm starting to theorize that maybe such a system would hurt our standing and society too much on the long run. I mean: should we start to think in terms of only a few generations / a few centuries, at most 1000 years. Or should we start to think to create a long-term sustainable society. Even in the worst scenario's for the climate, we won't be affected as much (of course, actually we would.. but our world will still be way more liveable than for future generations, even when heatwaves / tropical cyclones and the consequences of global warming will affect us way more next century), but the people who are in "real sh**t" are the ones that will follow when we die, and the generations who will live at the end of 21st century, 22nd century and 23th century. They'll be confrontated with the effects of our waste society, in which we buy things and throw it away whenever it has no purpose anymore or whenever we don't like it anymore, and we all forget that everything brings a cost, that everything that had to be produced created waste and created CO² in order to be produced. This is the problem we currently face in our society. We definitely need to change our attitude if we ever want clean nice blue air back again, or if we want normal temperatures again, if we want to preserve ecosystems, if we want to save endangered animals. Do we want animals to live freely on our world, that all have a place next to us, or do we want a world where animals would only be able to survive in imprisonment (a zoo), because over the course of last millenia we've claimed all their space.

I had a discussion with a economic libertarian lately, and he said that the market will eventually adapt to it's demand. If people want "blue air", the market will make it available, he said. And i've said, so this is the miserable future we face. Eventually governments will have to pay for blue air through companies that will specialize in creating blue and clean air to breathe in.

Is that so bad? If it's President Skroob inhaling air from a Perri-air can, sure. But what if the innovators in the market invent a large electrostatic cleaner that removes all the smog? Or something even better?

Which is why I want free markets with a stable rules, like Hayek did...and to quote his persona from the rap a couple economists put together a few years ago: "Give us a chance so we can discover the most valuable ways to serve one another"