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Indy Texas
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« on: July 25, 2015, 03:32:17 PM »

Palestinians from present-day Israel who currently reside in the West Bank or Gaza: will continue to reside in the West Bank/Gaza

Palestinians from present-day Israel who currently reside in Jordan: will continue to reside there and be granted Jordanian citizenship; Israel will pay the Jordanian government an indemnity to compensate them for this transfer

Palestinians from present-day Israel who currently reside in Lebanon or Syria: return to Israel and receive Israeli citizenship; alternately can take a lump sum "buyout" from the Israeli government in return for assistance emigrating to a third country

Palestinians from present-day Israel who currently reside in Egypt: follow the Jordan method above

Palestinians from present-day Israel who currently reside elsewhere and do not have refugee status: monetary compensation

Israeli citizens residing in West Bank settlement blocs not adjacent to Jerusalem: option to take Palestinian citizenship or relocate to Israel
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Indy Texas
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2015, 03:00:48 PM »

Do Israeli citizens from Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, S.Arabia, Iran, Libya, Tunisia..(you get the idea) get "monetary compensation" in this scheme of yours?


(and does your lists refer to all their descendants too?  I assume so, cause "special", if so, add that to the question too)

Well, they have citizenship and have not been living in refugee camps for the time being. Their situation is very different. A Jew who was expelled from an Arab country or left voluntarily and moved to Israel did not face anywhere near the loss of economic and social capital that a Palestinian who was expelled from Israel to a neighboring country has faced.
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Indy Texas
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2015, 09:45:55 PM »

Do Israeli citizens from Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, S.Arabia, Iran, Libya, Tunisia..(you get the idea) get "monetary compensation" in this scheme of yours?


(and does your lists refer to all their descendants too?  I assume so, cause "special", if so, add that to the question too)

Well, they have citizenship and have not been living in refugee camps for the time being. Their situation is very different. A Jew who was expelled from an Arab country or left voluntarily and moved to Israel did not face anywhere near the loss of economic and social capital that a Palestinian who was expelled from Israel [or left voluntarily, you seem to have missed part here] to a neighboring country has faced.
Indeed, and it seems like nobody involved has learned a damn thing from this situation.  Do you think Jordan, Lebanon, etc would be better off today had they had been as accepting as Israel?  Would the refugees be better off?

(and I'm going to need a cite that the average Palestinian lost more "economic and social capital" when forced to flee than the average Jew that was forced to flee, that seems dubious)

I'm not sure why you think Jordan or Lebanon are under any obligation to accept Palestinian refugees unconditionally. Israel wanted to get as many Mizrahi Jews into the country as possible to tilt the demographic scales in their favor. The Mizrahi Jews, in return, got citizenship and a crash course in living in a developed country. Conversely, having a bunch of Palestinians suddenly move in didn't really fit with Jordan or Lebanon's long-term goals. Do you think if Hungary invaded Austria, Germany should simply let all the Austrians come live in Germany since they're all German-speaking? That's the kind of flawed logic you're using here. You think it's perfectly reasonable for a Syrian Jew to throw a Palestinian Muslim out of their house and for the Palestinian Muslim to simply shrug and go live in Syria. The Syrian Jew has no inherent business living in Israel and the Palestinian Muslim has no inherent business living in Syria.
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