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David S
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« on: February 26, 2007, 01:15:29 AM »


POLICE STATE, GERMANY
Homeschool family told
to give up 5 other kids
Officials suggest breakup would solve
dispute over daughter's home education

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Posted: February 25, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

Melissa Busekros

German authorities who sent 15 uniformed police officers to take custody of a 15-year-old girl who committed the crime of being homeschooled now have suggested a solution that, in their minds, would "resolve" the situation: the parents should give up custody of their other five children.

The situation involving Melissa Busekros has been in the headlines ever since the beginning of this month, when the officers arrived at her parents' home with a court order allowing them to take her into custody, "if necessary by force."

She had fallen behind in math and Latin, and was being tutored at home. When school officials in Germany, where homeschooling has been illegal since Adolph Hitler decided he wanted to control the educating of all children, discovered that fact, she was expelled. School officials then took her to court, obtaining a court order requiring she be committed to a psychiatric ward because of her "school phobia."

Full story at http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54425
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David S
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2007, 05:04:29 PM »
« Edited: February 26, 2007, 11:16:19 PM by David S »

The situation involving Melissa Busekros has been in the headlines ever since the beginning of this month, when the officers arrived at her parents' home with a court order allowing them to take her into custody, "if necessary by force."

Which headlines? This is the first time I hear about a case like that. Seriously.

Considering that this news site doesn't seem to be most neutral on the globe to me, I would recommend to check whether this actually happened and if it happened that it happened in the way it is decribed there.


I googled it before I posted it. Here's another source:
http://www.netzwerk-bildungsfreiheit.de/html/pe_erlangen_en.html

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David S
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2007, 10:59:11 AM »

The point of this thread is not to criticize Germany. The point is to criticize excessive government intrusion into the private lives of the people, wherever it occurs. The United States also is guilty of similar intrusions into the lives of its citizens. I post those too whenever I find them.   Cool
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David S
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2007, 03:22:22 PM »

The point of this thread is not to criticize Germany. The point is to criticize excessive government intrusion into the private lives of the people, wherever it occurs. The United States also is guilty of similar intrusions into the lives of its citizens. I post those too whenever I find them.   Cool

Then quote a more credible source please... e.g. something more "mainstream", be it from more a conservative or a more liberal POV, but at least something credible.

OK http://www.netzwerk-bildungsfreiheit.de/html/pe_erlangen_en.html
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David S
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2007, 02:41:20 PM »


Yeah, you already posted that link a few days ago and I wrote a rebuttal to that too. Go to page 2 of this thread.


Also read again what I have written on this page:
Not to mention that their article was almost wholly based on "facts" they obtained from organizations and pressure groups advocating homeschooling, which might not be the most objective source in the first place.


When I'm talking about "credible mainstream sources" I have something more in mind like CNN, the Washington Post, the Washington Times

Ask and ye shall receive; Washington Times http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20070227-084730-5162r.htm

Now I've given you three sources. Short of a affidavit from God I doubt that there is much else I can give you. The next time you post something I want three independent sources too. Cool
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David S
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2007, 02:44:11 PM »


I haven't attained "Immortal" status yet so I suppose you'll get your wish eventually, but I'm not planning on checking out anytime soon.
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David S
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2007, 05:21:09 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2007, 05:23:37 PM by David S »

Well I've posted three separate sources including one from a source Lewis asked for. Now since I am a mere mortal with a finite lifespan I prefer not to spend my remaining time looking for yet more sources. However since Lewis is immortal and has an infinite lifespan possibly he can devote a small bit of that life to finding a source which refutes the articles I posted.

Gabu I see you also have not attained immortality but possibly you could spend a tiny fraction of your remaining years (maybe 10 minutes) to finding a rebuttal.  Cool
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David S
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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2007, 12:14:57 PM »

If you google the girl's name you get something like 15,000 hits. Most of those are blogs. A few are news articles. So far I have not come across anything which refutes the article. I also checked Snopes.com but found nothing there, so I submitted the article to them. We'll see if they find anything.

I don't have a problem with anyone questioning the sources. But you could hold yourselves to the same standard you ask of me, post a credible source for your conclusions.
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