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« Reply #175 on: October 28, 2014, 07:56:09 PM »

Even if all the left wing and centrist parties merged in Alberta, it would be nowhere near close enough to even form official opposition.

A lot of progressives backed (and still back) the PCs, to stop Wildrose. I think one of our posters here, njall is one such example.
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« Reply #176 on: October 29, 2014, 06:53:52 PM »

Is what seperates the NDP and the Liberals worse than what seperates Tony Blair and Tony Benn? Bill Clinton and Dennis Kucinich? No. They could be one damn party.

Yes, in a sense. The Liberals are a corporatist party. No way the rank and file NDPers would tolerate becoming a corporatist party.  Dennis Kucinich doesn't seem to have that problem.

Would Bernie Sanders become a Democrat? No.
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« Reply #177 on: October 29, 2014, 07:39:57 PM »

Aside from the political and cultural differences, who's to say we have it wrong in Canada, whereas the US has it right? I would love it if the US had its own social democratic party.

But, I have to go back to my earlier point. The Liberals and Tories have a lot more in common than the Liberals and NDP. Look no further than the Toronto mayoral election. Liberals in Toronto had the choice between a conservative (John Tory) and a New Democrat (Olivia Chow) and overwhelmingly backed Tory.  A lot of that was to stop Ford, but remember, Chow had been leading at one point.

Similarly, we saw in the federal election, a lot of Liberals switching to the Conservatives to stop the NDP.

In a lot urban centres there are a lot of people who switch between the NDP and Liberals, but they pale in comparison between the Liberal-Conservative swing voters in the more populous suburbs.
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« Reply #178 on: October 29, 2014, 09:52:15 PM »

Don't forget the Ontario Liberals were to the right of the Tories in the 1970s and early 80s.
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« Reply #179 on: October 30, 2014, 06:24:22 AM »

The Liberals aren't progressives though, they're centrists. When Progressives vote Liberal, they're suggesting they're OK with the country swinging to a centre vs centre-right dichotomy.
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« Reply #180 on: October 30, 2014, 04:02:06 PM »

As an outsider looking in, it seems to me that Canadian voters are really volatile in federal elections, even between strange pairs like centre-left and centre-right. So that suggests all the parties aren't that distant from each other.

More like we have a lot of wishy-washy centrists in this country.
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« Reply #181 on: November 05, 2014, 03:03:19 PM »

By-election today in Conception Bay South, NL. Profile: http://canadianelectionatlas.blogspot.ca/2014/11/provincial-by-election-in-conception.html
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« Reply #182 on: November 05, 2014, 03:54:34 PM »

Haha. Well, it at least should be a close race. Those are always fun.
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« Reply #183 on: November 05, 2014, 06:51:47 PM »

1/44 polls reporting on elections NL site.

However, some guy from CBC is reporting the Tories are ahead 457-421

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« Reply #184 on: November 05, 2014, 07:19:41 PM »

This one is really, really close.
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« Reply #185 on: November 05, 2014, 07:20:29 PM »

According to the Liberals, they have a 41 vote lead with 2 polls to go
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« Reply #186 on: November 05, 2014, 07:22:16 PM »

Final result according to Liberal HQ:

Lib 2102
PC 2034
NDP 120

As I predicted, super close. Bad night for the NDP, but chalk that up to the horse race going on.
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« Reply #187 on: November 05, 2014, 07:35:16 PM »

Remember, the Liberals won 6 seats in 2011. They now have 14.
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« Reply #188 on: November 05, 2014, 08:13:48 PM »

Final tally:

Liberal: 2102 (49.4; +42.6%)
PC: 2026 (47.6%; -21.6%)
NDP: 130 (3.1%; -21.0%)
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« Reply #189 on: November 07, 2014, 06:56:12 AM »

The Tories will win a handful of seats, the question is which ones? Perhaps the leader's seat (Topsail).
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« Reply #190 on: November 08, 2014, 08:55:28 AM »

Keep in mind that about one third of the current riding of Whitby-Oshawa is in the city of Oshawa and after redistribution most of that gets folded into the riding of Oshawa in exchange for Oshawa ceding some of the more outlying northern parts of Oshawa to the riding of Durham. I have heard that Trish McAuliffe the NDP candidate in Whitby-Oshawa is likely to run in Oshawa next year (and Oshawa went NDP by 8,000 votes provincially) - so in the byelection the NDP strategy is probably for her to concentrate very heavily on the part of Whitby-Oshawa that will become part of Oshawa rising in 2015 so she can boost her name recognition there and go for the kill when its all part of Oshawa.

That's a good plan. We now know that Oshawa is a winnable riding, especially with the new boundaries.
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« Reply #191 on: November 10, 2014, 08:08:26 AM »

Lloydminster will be having a by-election Thursday. Here's the profile: http://canadianelectionatlas.blogspot.ca/2014/11/provincial-by-election-in-lloydminster.html

Got it out of the way due to the many electoral events coming up on Saturday and next Monday.
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« Reply #192 on: November 13, 2014, 09:49:31 PM »

Sask Party easily winning in Lloydminster. My theory of a Liberal resurgence has fizzled, they are behind the dormant PC Party candidate so far!
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« Reply #193 on: November 13, 2014, 11:13:00 PM »

Liberals ended up in third, but not much more than the Tories. Results very similar to 2011:

SP: 64.05 (-2.4%)
NDP: 28.93 (-0.2%)
Lib: 2.76
PC: 2.51
Grn: 1.75 (-2.7%)
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« Reply #194 on: November 16, 2014, 10:20:50 AM »

Profile of Saint John East: http://canadianelectionatlas.blogspot.ca/2014/11/saint-john-east-new-brunswick.html
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« Reply #195 on: November 17, 2014, 05:41:01 PM »

My profile's of Yellowhead and Whitby-Oshawa: http://canadianelectionatlas.blogspot.ca/2014/11/federal-by-elections-in-yellowhead-and.html
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« Reply #196 on: November 17, 2014, 08:20:23 PM »

OK, Cardy's last kick at the can was a flop. He can go away now Tongue

% change:

PC: +7.4
Lib: -9.2
NDP: +3.4
Grn: -0.4
PANB: -1.2
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« Reply #197 on: November 17, 2014, 09:46:23 PM »

1/284 polls in Yellowhead:

Conservative   32
Liberal   3
Libertarian   2
NDP-New Democratic Party   1
Independent   1
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« Reply #198 on: November 17, 2014, 09:51:59 PM »

1/280 in Whitby-Oshawa

NDP-New Democratic Party   11
Conservative   11
Liberal   9
Green Party   1

11 polls in Yellowhead

Conservative   220
Liberal   58
NDP-New Democratic Party   41
Independent   19
Libertarian   15


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« Reply #199 on: November 17, 2014, 10:07:04 PM »

Good job, CBC. You really had to try with that one.
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