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« on: March 28, 2015, 07:18:04 AM »
« edited: March 28, 2015, 07:34:06 AM by Charlotte Hebdo »

A former girlfriend (for 7 years) of Andreas Lubitz has told Bid, that he long time ago had planned to perform a spectacular and unforgettable action that would get his name in the history books. Last year had said to her:

- One day I will do something that will change the system, and then everyone will know and remember my name.

She says he was a troubled person and that she left him because of his personal problems and erratic behavior, which scared her.

He deliberately concealed information about his illness for his employer, but had previously spent years receiving treatment for a mental diagnoses, and in 2009 he had to interrupt his pilot training temporarily because of severe depression.

Sad business all around.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2015, 12:31:31 PM »
« Edited: March 28, 2015, 01:47:09 PM by Charlotte Hebdo »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often had nightmares and woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2015, 01:01:49 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2015, 04:36:00 AM by Charlotte Hebdo »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)

Everyone looks strange once they've piloted a plane into the side of a mountain in a suicide mission. Doesn't necessarily mean their behaviour was meaningful.

As for the diagnosis, I'd need to know exactly what it was before further comment. 'Mental illness' is a wide enough net that soon only middle aged men with mortgages and 'who really dig the Beatles' will be allowed to fly planes, if that is the criteria.

This guy looked a bit more than strange years before committing suicide.

Hated his employer and had rage fits over employment conditions and wages. Could completely change personality when he spoke about it and took his rage out on the girl friend - locking her up and shouting abuse at her. Seems to have been an act of revenge against the company.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 06:16:11 PM »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)

Everyone looks strange once they've piloted a plane into the side of a mountain in a suicide mission. Doesn't necessarily mean their behaviour was meaningful.

As for the diagnosis, I'd need to know exactly what it was before further comment. 'Mental illness' is a wide enough net that soon only middle aged men with mortgages and 'who really dig the Beatles' will be allowed to fly planes, if that is the criteria.

This guy looked a bit more than strange years before committing suicide.

Hated his employer and had rage fits over employment conditions and wages. Could completely change personality when he spoke about it and took his rage out on the girl friend - locking her up and shouting abuse at her. Seems to have been an act of revenge against the company.

Clearly the first person in history who hated his job, raged over low pay and abused his girlfriend. Obviously should have been sent to the nearest psych ward - a disaster waiting to happen.

You conveniently ignore the personality split part and it is also a very callous way to discuss abuse of women. You can be ironic all you want, but if you add it all up there were lots of signs that this guy was unfit to be trusted with something like flying a commercial plane and being responsible for the safety of hundreds of people.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 08:27:12 PM »

Obviously depressed people and people who say strange things once should be banned from doing anything ever.

According to her he often woke up screaming "lets rush" and there was a string of other "erratic behaviour" (which is why she got scared of him). It does not sound as if those were trivial things. It was enough to scare her out of a serious long term relationship.

He also had an (undisclosed) mental diagnosis and hid it from his employer. Not generally in favour of discrimination, but people who are mentally ill should not be allowed to fly a (commercial) plane.

(even if the source is Bild, this seems like a legit interview with a sincere and honest woman)

Everyone looks strange once they've piloted a plane into the side of a mountain in a suicide mission. Doesn't necessarily mean their behaviour was meaningful.

As for the diagnosis, I'd need to know exactly what it was before further comment. 'Mental illness' is a wide enough net that soon only middle aged men with mortgages and 'who really dig the Beatles' will be allowed to fly planes, if that is the criteria.

This guy looked a bit more than strange years before committing suicide.

Hated his employer and had rage fits over employment conditions and wages. Could completely change personality when he spoke about it and took his rage out on the girl friend - locking her up and shouting abuse at her. Seems to have been an act of revenge against the company.

Clearly the first person in history who hated his job, raged over low pay and abused his girlfriend. Obviously should have been sent to the nearest psych ward - a disaster waiting to happen.

You conveniently ignore the personality split part and it is also a very callous way to discuss abuse of women. You can be ironic all you want, but if you add it all up there were lots of signs that this guy was unfit to be trusted with something like flying a commercial plane and being responsible for the safety of hundreds of people.

And I assume the girlfriend went forward to the police, a mental health professional or the airline company which her concerns... which might have led to something being done (or not?).

No you do obviously not assume that.
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