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HagridOfTheDeep
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« on: September 11, 2016, 10:32:30 AM »

F-ck this election. Some people are disgusting.

Also, when else has she fainted?
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HagridOfTheDeep
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2016, 01:00:28 AM »

I wonder if this will be the beginning of people realizing they have been way too hard on her.
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HagridOfTheDeep
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2016, 01:14:44 AM »

I wonder if this will be the beginning of people realizing they have been way too hard on her.
You'll try and spin anything wont you?

Well, it's true. She has pneumonia and didn't tell the public because she knew she was being held to a ridiculous standard that put her in a catch-22 scenario. So instead, she forged ahead, kept on with a full schedule, and overall had a pretty decent week. And she's done all of this with a smile on her face, backwards and in high heels.

The way she quietly confronts her challenges—ones that another person probably wouldn't have to face in the same position—without making hay of the situation is pretty admirable.
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HagridOfTheDeep
Junior Chimp
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E: -6.19, S: -4.35

« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2016, 01:41:10 AM »

Well, it's true. She has pneumonia and didn't tell the public because she knew she was being held to a ridiculous standard that put her in a catch-22 scenario.

Even Michael Moore called her out on this, given it's obvious this was hid in selfish reasons as you note (It would hurt her in the polls).

Given the fact she's running to be President requires that us voters give all possible scrutiny on her (As well as Trump to be fair). Whether the "Red Avatars" in this thread want to acknowledge it or not, she got overheated in mildly inconvenient weather to the point she had to be manhandled into a vehicle. If she can't handle roughly 90 minutes of sedentary activity in the sun, what is she going to do in the event of a major crisis that forces her to go days without sleep in high intensity situations (See the example of JFK during the Cuban Crisis)?

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Where was this full schedule in August, incidentally? As well, if steadily losing a lead in the polls and having a medical episode is a good week, god help us all if she has a bad one while President.

(For the record, this is my first post here. I've been a long time lurker, but the amount of mental jujitsu attempts in this thread finally got me to make an account.)

Thanks for not wasting time and proving right away that you are worthy of a block.
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HagridOfTheDeep
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2016, 02:00:35 AM »

Well, it's true. She has pneumonia and didn't tell the public because she knew she was being held to a ridiculous standard that put her in a catch-22 scenario.

Even Michael Moore called her out on this, given it's obvious this was hid in selfish reasons as you note (It would hurt her in the polls).
Given the fact she's running to be President requires that us voters give all possible scrutiny on her (As well as Trump to be fair). Whether the "Red Avatars" in this thread want to acknowledge it or not, she got overheated in mildly inconvenient weather to the point she had to be manhandled into a vehicle. If she can't handle roughly 90 minutes of sedentary activity in the sun, what is she going to do in the event of a major crisis that forces her to go days without sleep in high intensity situations (See the example of JFK during the Cuban Crisis)?

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Where was this full schedule in August, incidentally? As well, if steadily losing a lead in the polls and having a medical episode is a good week, god help us all if she has a bad one while President.
(For the record, this is my first post here. I've been a long time lurker, but the amount of mental jujitsu attempts in this thread finally got me to make an account.)

Her illness is not permanent.
So why are you talking as if this will be something that will affect her, if she were to become President ?
If it was a severe case of pneumonia, or some other major illness, than I can understand your discomfort with her not being open about the sickness. But I think this whole thing has been blown-up to a point, that she is basically dying (which is obviously ridiculous). She walked out of her daughters apartment (with no help) soon after she went in to rest and was seen by some medical people. Would someone with a severe illness have the strength to do that ?

What is more, she only hid it because she was forced to do so thanks to the way Donald Trump has legitimized conspiracy theorists and the like. She wanted some peace and quiet, not to be vilified and Chicken Littled for catching a bug.

I'd also add that JFK had far worse health issues than Hillary Clinton, so your example only serves to undermine your point.

As for Hillary's August schedule, she fundraised a hell of a lot, so it's clear she was working hard. And this week was pretty good: She re-established her relationship with the press by holding numerous gaggles and press conferences, she got a new plane, managed to drown out the e-mail story, energized her base by directly assailing the bigotry in the race, and just in general managed to drive the news cycle in the way that Donald is usually able to do. Today's events were unfortunate, but they prove she's only human and really does work her ass off in the face of totally baseless attacks.
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HagridOfTheDeep
Junior Chimp
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Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -4.35

« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2016, 11:35:37 AM »

Presumably she got pneumonia while fleeing those snipers in Bosnia

What is more, she only hid it because she was forced to do so thanks to the way Donald Trump has legitimized conspiracy theorists and the like. She wanted some peace and quiet, not to be vilified and Chicken Littled for catching a bug.

Hey genius, if the conspiracy theory turns out to be true, it isn't a "conspiracy theory" anymore, it's a conspiracy fact

Apparently Donald Trump's crime was legitimizing people who were right all along. I suppose Hillary shouldn't take the blame for those smearing "conspiracy theorists" claiming that Iraq didn't have WMDs?

Hey, f-ckwit, she was diagnosed on Friday. Health conspiracies started months and months ago and were alleging some secret illness that meant near-certain death for the candidate. There's a difference.

Instead, it turns out she's battling a glorified cold. It needs to be taken seriously, but it's not the throat cancer you know-nothings shout about from the rooftops.
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HagridOfTheDeep
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,761
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Political Matrix
E: -6.19, S: -4.35

« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2016, 12:32:07 PM »

How exactly was the pneumonia covered up when she wasn't diagnosed until yesterday? Unless you think her doctor is just lying.

She was diagnosed Friday and rightly judged it wasn't worth having the press blow up over a temporary affliction, particularly in light of the bullsh-t spinning around about "her health." Turns out it blew up in her face anyway, which is unfortunate, but it certainly shows her commitment, as well as the difficult binds she alone is often uniquely forced into.
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