Donald Trump caught on hot mic bragging about sexually assaulting women

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Okay, I take back what I said about Clinton not having a shot at winning Texas.

He's probably going to do a Jimmy Swaggart--just to keep his floor.  Otherwise, all that's left are the deplorables.

This is a bigoted statement, unless you're OK with a double standard.  Bigoted, in all likelihood toward Conservative Christians and much of the white working class.  Perhaps that's OK on Atlas; I doubt it's any more OK with God than Trump's conduct.  Or Bill's.  Or Hillary's.    

Millions of decent, moral, hard-working Americans are going to vote for Donald Trump.  They will, I'm sure, be conflicted.  I'm most conflicted, and I'm not going to defend Trump's conduct.  But I'm not going to defend Hillary's behavior toward Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey; it was no less reprehensible, even if it was done antiseptically with good manners and clean language.  It was the active discrediting of victims alleging sexual misconduct by a Governor and a President, and that FACT cries out for attention in this "character" debate.

I'm not thrilled by the choice between a candidate whose lack of self-control on a personal level amazes me and a candidate who, in all likelihood, has received grace for the commission of a felony AND who has abused alleged victims of sexual misconduct for the preservation of her own career.  I am an undecided voter at this point.  I may well vote for Gary Johnson, and if I vote for Trump, I will do so only in the privacy of the voting booth.  I won't defend his conduct, and, in all honesty, I am amazed that he can't control his own Twitter account better than he does.

But I will call out the double standard.  A crude, locker room comment about women made years ago by a married man, caught on camera, is not what I expect in a President.  This, vs. a woman who trashed alleged victims of sexual misconduct, lied about her e-mails (a matter of law) to the point where it is arguable that her actions rose to the level of a criminal charge, for which she's been given grace.  I don't espct that from a President, either.  I get it why people call out conservative Christians supporting someone like Trump simply because, reprehensible comments or not, he lines up with them on issues more than Hillary.  They have a point.  But it is NOT a false equivalence to compare this to the Feminist Left and Secular Liberals who support Hillary for acting in a reprehensible way toward sexual misconduct victims when their allegations impacted not just the alleged perpetrator (Bill), but her, as well.  (If Juanita Broaddrick had been victimized by Trump and my wife had gone out and perpetuated a "nuts and sluts" disinformation campaign, would she be "deplorable"?)

If the election were about who's the best person, I'd be voting for Gary Johnson.  It's about more than that.  It's about what they're going to do.  And unless there's some kind of Texas End-Around Play in the Electoral College, it's going to be Hillary or Donald.  For different reasons, I don't like either outcome.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Okay, I take back what I said about Clinton not having a shot at winning Texas.

He's probably going to do a Jimmy Swaggart--just to keep his floor.  Otherwise, all that's left are the deplorables.

I get it why people call out conservative Christians supporting someone like Trump simply because, reprehensible comments or not, he lines up with them on issues more than Hillary.  They have a point.

Um, how?  I think the biggest problem for me this election has been evangelical support of Trump. And the only reason I can think of is abortion, and even that is fairly crazy because 1) what has he said about abortion, and 2) abortion rates have gone down under the baby-killing Comrade Obama.

What Christian values are evangelicals using to vote for Trump, and why aren't they voting for the Democratic ticket?  Especially given that the latter definitely seems to be the more "family values" ticket this year? 

I've been out of pocket due to Hurricane Matthew.  I'm posting at a wifi hotspot as I'm still without power.

I've come to the conclusion that I'm not voting for Trump.  I will not vote for Hillary Clinton.  I will vote for Gary Johnson, unless, somehow, Trump is replaced as the GOP nominee, and I don't know if that's possible.

I don't know how Christians will react to it.  They've stomached a lot from Trump in terms of personal conduct (not that Hillary isn't deplorable herself).  

They've done so because Trump, while not a Godly man, is more favorable to many policy issues important to Christians.  He'll do the right thing in their eyes on Supreme Court nominees.  Hillary will, in their eyes, deal with conservative Christians in a persecutory way.  They fear she'll force "gay marriage" on churches, force religious organizations to hire gays and lesbians, even in areas such as teachers in religious schools, and she's for partial birth abortion, up until the last day of pregnancy, which, for me, is legal infanticide.  I've voted for pro-choice candidates over the years, but she's unusually vested in this issue, and Christians get that.  They're doing the best with what they've got.  Liberals ought to view themselves in the same manner when they vote for Hillary.  At best, both sides are guilty of a degree of willful blindness, but liberals who point the finger at conservative Christians have 3 fingers pointing back at them.  I'm willing to extend the grace to folks with red avatars here that some are doing the best they can with what they have to work with.  That folks like me receive little grace in return, only questions of my morality and sanity, is sad, but, perhaps, expected.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

I was not surprised when I heard of that whole thing. The Trumpster showed his real face. As Joe Biden (I think it was him?) once said: If someone shows you who he is, believe him in the first place.

#MakeAmericaSexistAgain

And, yet, Joe Biden supported Bill Clinton twice.  He still apologizes for him.

I voted for Bill Clinton twice as well.  And I voted for Trump in the primary.  (I'm a registered Republican of convenience now; I was a registered Democrat up until 1994.)  I guess I'm part of the problem both ways.  I have had a number of life experiences, most notably my experience of working as a facilitator of intervention groups for Domestic Violence perpetrators since 2000 that have affected my opinion on the issues of the conduct of Mr. Clinton, and now Mr. Trump, greatly.

In 1992, Secretary of Labor Lynn Martin gave the nominating speech for Bush 41.  It's a speech that's been forgotten, but it touched on the Clinton revelations (Gennifer Flowers in particular, but others).  Several times, Sec. Martin stated the following:  "You cannot be one kind of man and another kind of President."  It's hard to say what the voters thought of that, as Clinton won with only 43% of the vote, but the entire Clinton Presidency, and his post-Presidency to boot has been about Clinton's supporters (and, indeed, the whole of the National Democratic Party) insist that once can, indeed, be one kind of man and a different kind of President.

This is the double standard here that I object to.  Clinton supporters insist that Bill Clinton could be one kind of man in private and a different kind of President, but they refuse to believe that Donald Trump can do the same.  I realize that Hillary is not Bill, but she orchestrated a campaign to discredit Bill's accusers (Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey most prominently) as "nuts and sluts".  Bill, indeed, could not really couldn't be two kinds of men; his philandering extended to the Oval Office and to an intern of the Executive Branch.  It caused him to lie under oath.  It caused him to be disbarred by the Supreme Court.  And Hillary covered for this, did Bill's dirty work in trashing Broaddrick and Willey (and others).  If Donald Trump can't be one king of man and another kind of President, I'd ask two questions:

1.  Why do you think Bill Clinton was one kind of man and another kind of President?

2.  Why do you think Hillary Clinton won't underhandedly trash HER enemies as she did Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey?

I can no longer support Trump in good conscience.  I will probably vote for Gary Johnson.  I will not vote for Hillary, however, because if Donald Trump can't be one kind of man and another kind of President, Hillary can't either.  And she's not a person worthy of the kind of deification she receives around here.  

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

The Wall Street Journal writes this:

“Our party is in its deepest crisis since Watergate in 1974,” said Ron Nehring, former chairman of the California Republican Party, referring to the mid-term election when the resignation of then-President Richard M. Nixon led to a Democratic landslide. “It’s compounded by the fact that it doesn’t matter whether Donald Trump were to bow out. It’s too late to change the candidate on the ballot.”

There is some precedent for this.  In the 1990 Minnesota Governor's race, a scandal arose after the initial Republican nominee, businessman Jon Grunseth, beat Arne Carlson in the primary. On October 15, it was revealed that, in 1981, Grunseth had invited three then-teenaged friends of his stepdaughter, as well as his stepdaughter herself, to go skinny-dipping in the pool at his home.  This was devastating.  The Minnesota GOP, later than this date, abandoned Grunseth and named Carlson its nominee.  Carlson, who had not been the candidate for long, overtook the Democrat, Rudy Perpich, and was elected.

It's not a perfect match, but let's not forget that in the Presidential race, folks are voting for slates of electors.  It would take a bit of education to let voters know that a vote for Trump-Pence was a vote for Pence-Cruz (for example), but not that much, and it wouldn't matter in the Romney states much anyway. 

If Trump is dumped NOW, the GOP can win the election.  Most of the GOP have clean hands on this; they can say "I told you so!".  Pence has been well-received; he'll be a sympathetic figure, unlike the polarizing Clinton, and he's likely to keep all of Trump's base.  But it has to be now.  If Trump delays, or hangs in, I suspect that there will be, after all, a Goldwater-esque defeat for the GOP.  Trump would have brought this on himself.  But I will not relish the idea that Hillary Clinton would be elected thinking she has some kind of mandate.

[Fuzzy Bear Loves Christian Missionaries]

Trump is a truthteller? that's an incredibly ignorant statement. Politifact will tell you otherwise, Trump's OWN LAWYERS will tell you otherwise. Trump is an incredibly dishonest person.

But Hillary is an angel.

I didn't say that in my post. Please don't put words in my mouth, or I will be forced to do the same to you.

There is that implication here.

Hillary's misdeeds involve conduct while FLOTUS and in High Appointive office.