Radical-left Jew helps PA in killing Palestinians who sell land to Jews

[Hnv1]

A. He was just bragging from what I heard that land seller scum is alive and kicking (the PA hadn't executed accomplices since 2006).
B. Ezra is a known turd
C. if after 3 years of investigation all they found was this then I'm proud. The radical left has Ezra the radical right has hundreds of young terrorists who raise terror in the West Bank and inside Israel.
D. If I were a Palestinian it would have been a legitimate channel (considering they are not executed), The Lehi and Etzel excited a fair share of "traitors" in their heyday

[Hnv1]

Yes, terrorists, I guess it's hard to believe when you live 5 hours of a flight away and don't know thir conduct in person

I didn't say I support it but I'  also not fighting for my national liberation, and it's not my role to decide for the Palestinians how deal with their traitors.

amd yes Ezra is scum, I could have said before this incident

[Hnv1]

In regards to those arrested on arson accounts, I had not see the evidence so I can't comment but I fully agree physical interrogation should only be applied to ticking bombs and no to get confessions. I guess my experience of them and their mischief is different (I include their allies within Israel who take part in terrorizing Left demonstrations and arab citizens)

[Hnv1]

I guess my experience of them and their mischief is different (I include their allies within Israel who take part in terrorizing Left demonstrations and arab citizens)

Now you seem to be using the word "terrorizing" in a more colloquial sense. We obviously have very different views on right-wingers at left-wing demonstrations, and since I think we both know from each other where we stand, it does not seem particularly fruitful to discuss that.

The fact remains that even most people within Lehava cannot really be considered terrorists, even if they engage in disturbing stuff (and even if I really do not like them, having witnessed one of their embarrassing "marches" after a Beitar match). Let alone people like Yoav Eliasi (whom I do like) and his "lions", who simply air their opinions in a confrontational manner even if they can be loud at left-wing demonstrations.

Terrorism for me: using violent measures and intimidating tactics against civilians to advance a political agenda.

As I know people who got actually beaten by Eliassi and his crew let's agree to disagree

[Hnv1]

Terrorism for me: using violent measures and intimidating tactics against civilians to advance a political agenda.

As I know people who got actually beaten by Eliassi and his crew let's agree to disagree

Yes, but when it comes to terrorism, the victims are generally not the real "goal" for the perpetrators: the real goal is to strike fear into the broader public, thereby influencing politics. The victims are merely the "means" for terrorists to strike fear.

When some of Eliasi's "crew" beat someone in demonstration of the radical left, this is probably not the case: they just dislike this person's political stance and therefore beat him up. The victim is the "goal" of the action, not the means. To be sure, I obviously do not approve of that (even if I cannot say I feel sorry for these people), but I do not think it constitutes terrorism in a strict sense.

I find their straightforward violence as an instrumental means to creating a public atmosphere where one should be afraid to express opinions that consensus doesn't bear. This classic SA-other right wing street gangs mentality, it's not all that sophisticated with an established ideology  part for silencing opponents and that's political terror.

It also beg the  moral question, who's worse the one who act violently instrumentally to get political gains or the one who act violently as an intrinsic value in itself? who is a bigger threat to society?

[Hnv1]

Considering most Israel-Palestine discussions here are conducted by dogmatic Americans who hardly ever set foot in said area I find this board can only gain from actual Israelis (and hopefully in the future) Palestinians engaging in discussions.

If this doesn't interest you you're welcome to not check the thread