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Question: Will Trump win the youth vote by default?
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ProudModerate2
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« on: April 29, 2016, 03:10:50 PM »


Exactly.
And remember, I'm 99% certain that Sanders will be campaigning and shown right next to Hillary at many rallies, after the Dem convention.
Sanders will ask, no plea, that his supporters back Hillary in the general election.
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2016, 01:26:13 PM »

Trump is a dishonest flip-flopping rambler who wants to indiscriminately deport millions of otherwise law-abiding people, has a history of sexist remarks, and throughout his life has funded the politicians that have ruined this country.
Something which "every other major country on Earth" (to quote Sanders) does, albeit not in the millions. Let's dispel with this fiction that illegal immigration isn't a big deal. I think it's impractical to even attempt to deport that many people, but that's because of decades of ambivalence on the issue from both parties. Just because it's impractical doesn't mean it's morally wrong to advocate such a position. In fact, Trump's position is the morally courageous position.

This. I don't even think kicking 12 million people is the best idea, but I give a man huge props for be being brave enough to suggest actually enforcing our laws. I'm also horrified that wanting to enforce immigration laws (which every other major country on Earth) does is automatically enough to be branded a fascist/racist.

Plus, if our opening offer is 12 million, maybe we come away with something like 4 million or something. The Art of the Deal! Smiley

He's not being branded a fascist/racist merely because he says we should deport all illegal immigrants. He's being branded a fascist/racist because he says "Mexico is sending their criminals, their rapists." Because he supports a religious test for legal immigration. These are not moral or reasonable comments. And yet Trump made them. How is that so difficult for some to understand? Is it really that easy to forget some of the disgusting things Trump said, and not even that long ago?

Trump's comments on "rapist and murderers" would not be seen as despicable if folks understood the scope of the problem of Transnational Criminal Gangs (MS-13, Nortenos, Surenos, and others) and the deadly havoc they inflict on many American cities.  They are doing the business of criminal drug cartels from other countries here in the US, and the violence they inflict includes rapes, murders, and human trafficking.  The problems these folks create within the US are entirely a product of our porous Southern Border. 

The fact of the matter is that "the scope of the problem" is not as big as you and trump supporters want to make it look like. The issue here is that Little-Hands-Drumpf-Fuhrer said something horrific, so trump followers then need to create excuses to paint-over and disguise trump's insulting words towards different groups.

Are there gangs and drugs that come over the border ? Yes, of course. But the extent is nothing you make it out to be. Studies have shown that foreign-born individuals exhibit remarkably low levels of involvement in crime across their life course. Read it and learn :
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/02/surprise-donald-trump-is-wrong-about-immigrants-and-crime/

And remember, trump labeled PRACTICALLY ALL immigrants as rapists and criminals, when he added that only "some, I assume, are good people." Why did trump use these words of hatred ? Discussing immigration is not a problem. But trump took it one huge step too far. Maybe he did it to rile up the xenophobic Republican base, or maybe he did it because he is a racist/bigot.
These are the facts. You can twist it all you want, but in the end, trump made a huge "despicable" error, and will pay for it come November.
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2016, 11:01:12 PM »
« Edited: April 30, 2016, 11:10:21 PM by ProudModerate2 »

Brand New Poll/Survey just released .....

A new poll suggests that a race for president between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton could yield the lowest support for a Republican candidate among young voters in decades.

The survey, conducted by the Harvard University Institute of Politics, finds that in a hypothetical matchup, 61% of likely voters age 18-29 say they would vote for Clinton, while just 25% would vote for Trump. That's worse than most other recent Republican candidates for president.

Read the survey details and weep, trump supporters:
http://iop.harvard.edu/iop-now/harvard-iop-spring-2016-poll
Or additional commentary via CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/25/politics/donald-trump-young-voters/index.html
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ProudModerate2
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2016, 01:19:53 PM »

61% of likely voters age 18-29 say they would vote for Clinton, while just 25% would vote for Trump.

That is almost 3-to-1. Staggering !
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