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SNJ1985
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« on: August 15, 2017, 09:45:58 PM »

It is really remarkable that Americans are now further from achieving Lincoln's dream of national unity than they were in 1890; there are people in this thread right now who feel more animosity towards the Confederacy than did many of the men who actually fought against it.

That most of you seem to view the civil war as 'WWII on American soil' is an indictment of the American educational system.

I don't know why modern leftists seem to think that all of the men who actually fought the Confederates and the Nazis would be on their side today.

If George S. Patton were alive today, he would almost certainly have a higher opinion of Trump and the alt-right than the modern left. Patton does not strike me as someone who would be marching in BLM rallies, fighting for ''LGBT rights'', preaching about ''white privilege'', etc. if he were alive today.

It was mostly white, working class Christian men (who comprise most of the Republican base today) that defeated the Confederates and the Nazis. I don't even think most of the men who served in the Red Army would be SJWs today. Just look at how right-wing Russia is nowadays.
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SNJ1985
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 10:30:51 PM »

>Implying George S Patton's political opinion is relevant to any of us

He's just an example of the point I'm trying to make. 1940s American men, including the ones who served in WW2, were not a very left-wing bunch. Plenty of them would sympathize with Trump and/or the alt-right today, contrary to what today's leftists apparently think.
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SNJ1985
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 11:07:05 PM »

Actually the Greatest Generation were more often than not ardent New Dealers.

Yes, that's true. They weren't culturally left-wing, though. A lot of those who voted for Trump in 2016 had ancestors who supported Roosevelt and the New Deal. Just look at Appalachia.
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SNJ1985
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2017, 12:01:14 PM »

The WWII generation hated socialism! Which is why they voted for FDR four times and thanked Democrats for Social Security by giving them control of the House for most of the century.

I was talking about culture, not economics. Many of the people who voted for FDR were culturally conservative and would not be welcome in today's left.

Also, FDR was not a ''socialist''.
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SNJ1985
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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2017, 12:28:21 PM »

>Implying George S Patton's political opinion is relevant to any of us

He's just an example of the point I'm trying to make. 1940s American men, including the ones who served in WW2, were not a very left-wing bunch. Plenty of them would sympathize with Trump and/or the alt-right today, contrary to what today's leftists apparently think.

Thomas, if you're trying to make the point that the men born in the early 20th century and (at least among officers) late 19th century are more socially conservative than the average person in the 21st century, you're not exactly giving us a hot take here. Nor a remotely relevant one.

I think it's relevant. Leftists and their sympathizers are posting memes all over social media showing photos of American troops who served in WW2 with captions like ''violent, alt-left thugs''. The memes imply that all of the men in those photos would sympathize with the modern left today, which is an absurd assumption to make.
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