California 8th Congressional District

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Congresswoman Sheehan would be an uncompromising clown, unwilling to work with anyone on anything. She's an attention whore who does and says the most outlandish and ridiculous things to generate controversy.

Uncompromising? So you mean, unlike Pelosi, Congresswoman Sheehan would actually take a stand to end the wars, the reason the Democrats were voted into office in 2006 in the first place? How horrible that would be.

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Oh yeah, Pelosi gave you single-payer national healthcare right? Or at least the public option you wanted?

[Shilly]

Don't let the high Demoratic percentages in San Francisco fool you. There isn't much on the far left.

Well, combatting stereotypes is good and all, but still, there's more than most places in America. I mean, very few if any other districts would have given Sheehan 16% against someone like Pelosi.

True. But San Francisco is a lot farther right than it is popularly believed to be. It has a rightist mayor.

Gavin Newsom is a right-winger now? LOL how so? The fact that endorsed Hillary in the primaries or the fact that he's been such an outspoken advocate of same-sex marriage?

I'ts quite obvious you don't know much about San Francisco, semocrat08.

[Lief 🗽]

Congresswoman Sheehan would be an uncompromising clown, unwilling to work with anyone on anything. She's an attention whore who does and says the most outlandish and ridiculous things to generate controversy.

Uncompromising? So you mean, unlike Pelosi, Congresswoman Sheehan would actually take a stand to end the wars, the reason the Democrats were voted into office in 2006 in the first place? How horrible that would be.

And would accomplish absolutely nothing in the progress. Hooray!

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Oh yeah, Pelosi gave you single-payer national healthcare right? Or at least the public option you wanted?

I never said she works magic. At the end of the day we still have corporate-owned DINOs like Blanche Lincoln and Ben Nelson in the party. But the will would have been even weaker without her.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Congresswoman Sheehan would be an uncompromising clown, unwilling to work with anyone on anything. She's an attention whore who does and says the most outlandish and ridiculous things to generate controversy.

Uncompromising? So you mean, unlike Pelosi, Congresswoman Sheehan would actually take a stand to end the wars, the reason the Democrats were voted into office in 2006 in the first place? How horrible that would be.

And would accomplish absolutely nothing in the progress. Hooray!

So you consider the cause of ending the war to be worth "absolutely nothing" in terms of accomplishment?

I see the Democrats have internalized the Bush war-without-end mentality now that they're Obama's wars...

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Congresswoman Sheehan would be an uncompromising clown, unwilling to work with anyone on anything. She's an attention whore who does and says the most outlandish and ridiculous things to generate controversy.

Uncompromising? So you mean, unlike Pelosi, Congresswoman Sheehan would actually take a stand to end the wars, the reason the Democrats were voted into office in 2006 in the first place? How horrible that would be.

And would accomplish absolutely nothing in the progress. Hooray!

So you consider the cause of ending the war to be worth "absolutely nothing" in terms of accomplishment?

I see the Democrats have internalized the Bush war-without-end mentality now that they're Obama's wars...

Does this cat really think the Dems ran against the wars in 2006? lol

They ran against BUSH. And Bush's war was Iraq. So they ran against Bush via Iraq. No better way to run against an unpopular President then to run against the unpopular war he started. Thats one thing Dems have in their favor this time. Whereas in 2006, the dems just had to say Iraq 1000 times to win, this year that isn't one think that epitomizes all the things people don't like about Obama.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Congresswoman Sheehan would be an uncompromising clown, unwilling to work with anyone on anything. She's an attention whore who does and says the most outlandish and ridiculous things to generate controversy.

Uncompromising? So you mean, unlike Pelosi, Congresswoman Sheehan would actually take a stand to end the wars, the reason the Democrats were voted into office in 2006 in the first place? How horrible that would be.

And would accomplish absolutely nothing in the progress. Hooray!

So you consider the cause of ending the war to be worth "absolutely nothing" in terms of accomplishment?

I see the Democrats have internalized the Bush war-without-end mentality now that they're Obama's wars...

Does this cat really think the Dems ran against the wars in 2006? lol

They ran against BUSH. And Bush's war was Iraq. So they ran against Bush via Iraq. No better way to run against an unpopular President then to run against the unpopular war he started. Thats one thing Dems have in their favor this time. Whereas in 2006, the dems just had to say Iraq 1000 times to win, this year that isn't one think that epitomizes all the things people don't like about Obama.

The American people voted them in to end Bush's war, not just because they didn't like Bush himself.

[Sbane]

Don't let the high Demoratic percentages in San Francisco fool you. There isn't much on the far left.

Well, combatting stereotypes is good and all, but still, there's more than most places in America. I mean, very few if any other districts would have given Sheehan 16% against someone like Pelosi.

True. But San Francisco is a lot farther right than it is popularly believed to be. It has a rightist mayor.

Gavin Newsom is a right-winger now? LOL how so? The fact that endorsed Hillary in the primaries or the fact that he's been such an outspoken advocate of same-sex marriage?

IIRC the whole same-sex marriage thing happened just after he won a bitterly contested runoff against Matt Gonzales, the more left wing green candidate. And Gavin certainly isn't no raving liberal on fiscal issues, or the homeless, or a host of other issues. He just started the gay marriages in SF to shore up his liberal bonafides after an election where he was portrayed as the "conservative" candidate.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

What Xahar was getting at - presumably - was Newsom's actual existing policies wrt running the city, not whether he supports this or that cultural cause.

[Associate Justice PiT]

What Xahar was getting at - presumably - was Newsom's actual existing policies wrt running the city, not whether he supports this or that cultural cause.

     If we are talking about rightist in the sense of defending the status quo, isn't it inevitable that 99.9% of mayors in the United States will be rightist?

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Who's John Dennis?

[Associate Justice PiT]

Who's John Dennis?

     Ron Paul Republican. I remember reading a section of his platform where he talked about the importance of all different kinds of freedom. Seems like a pretty good guy.

[Sbane]

Who's John Dennis?

     Ron Paul Republican. I remember reading a section of his platform where he talked about the importance of all different kinds of freedom. Seems like a pretty good guy.

And was Dana Walsh the establishment candidate? I know it's SF, but it's still pretty impressive that a Ron Paul republican won a Republican primary.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Who's John Dennis?

     Ron Paul Republican. I remember reading a section of his platform where he talked about the importance of all different kinds of freedom. Seems like a pretty good guy.

So you have two worthwhile FF candidates, but it's the worthless piece of sh**t that will break 70% there.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Who's John Dennis?

     Ron Paul Republican. I remember reading a section of his platform where he talked about the importance of all different kinds of freedom. Seems like a pretty good guy.

And was Dana Walsh the establishment candidate? I know it's SF, but it's still pretty impressive that a Ron Paul republican won a Republican primary.

     She was the nominee in 2008. I know nothing about her besides that.

     Anyway, San Francisco is socially a very liberal place. While there are other places I'd suspect it to be the case of (Marin, New York), San Francisco is the only county that I'd say most likely has more libertarians than populists, & maybe even more libertarians than conservatives. Okay, that last one is probably a pipe dream.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I doubt San Francisco has many libertarians at all. Unless you use the rather idiotic "Anyone who is economically conservative but pro-choice and doesn't hate gays" definition. Remember when some people called Rudy Giuliani a libertarian?

[Associate Justice PiT]

I doubt San Francisco has many libertarians at all. Unless you use the rather idiotic "Anyone who is economically conservative but pro-choice and doesn't hate gays" definition. Remember when some people called Rudy Giuliani a libertarian?

     I doubt San Francisco has many populists at all either.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I doubt San Francisco has many libertarians at all. Unless you use the rather idiotic "Anyone who is economically conservative but pro-choice and doesn't hate gays" definition. Remember when some people called Rudy Giuliani a libertarian?

     I doubt San Francisco has many populists at all either.

At least 8% voted for both Obama and Prop 8.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I doubt San Francisco has many libertarians at all. Unless you use the rather idiotic "Anyone who is economically conservative but pro-choice and doesn't hate gays" definition. Remember when some people called Rudy Giuliani a libertarian?

     I doubt San Francisco has many populists at all either.

At least 8% voted for both Obama and Prop 8.

     At least 41% voted for Obama & against Prop F.

[Хahar 🤔]

What Xahar was getting at - presumably - was Newsom's actual existing policies wrt running the city, not whether he supports this or that cultural cause.

This, more or less. Newsom is allied with the right of the Board of Supervisors, as opposed to the left of Chris Daly, Ross Mirkarimi et al.

[Associate Justice PiT]

What Xahar was getting at - presumably - was Newsom's actual existing policies wrt running the city, not whether he supports this or that cultural cause.

This, more or less. Newsom is allied with the right of the Board of Supervisors, as opposed to the left of Chris Daly, Ross Mirkarimi et al.

     So the fact that a mayor was elected who is rightist in the context of local politics means the city is not as far-left as is thought?

[Хahar 🤔]

What Xahar was getting at - presumably - was Newsom's actual existing policies wrt running the city, not whether he supports this or that cultural cause.

This, more or less. Newsom is allied with the right of the Board of Supervisors, as opposed to the left of Chris Daly, Ross Mirkarimi et al.

     So the fact that a mayor was elected who is rightist in the context of local politics means the city is not as far-left as is thought?

Not just elected, but reelected unopposed.