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Question: Too much freedom or too little?
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« on: November 20, 2004, 02:40:41 AM »
As a matter of philosophy, what side is it better to error on?
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2004, 02:42:11 AM »
Without hesitation, too much.
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2004, 02:52:01 AM »
Too much.

Certain issues that I have no preference for or against, like abortion, I choose to error on the side of freedom and become weakly pro-choice.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2004, 02:55:57 AM »
That would be one of the exceptions for me. Normally I'd prefer to error on the side of freedom, but I would rather error on the side of life than on the side of death.
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2004, 03:35:36 AM »
Quote from: Philip on November 20, 2004, 02:55:57 AM
That would be one of the exceptions for me. Normally I'd prefer to error on the side of freedom, but I would rather error on the side of life than on the side of death.

Huh>

Freedom.
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2004, 07:51:43 AM »
Quote from: Philip on November 20, 2004, 02:40:41 AM
As a matter of philosophy, what side is it better to error on?

There's no such thing as "too much freedom."

Suspect you may be confusing 'license' with 'liberty.'
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2004, 09:55:37 AM »
More freedom is always good, but less government does not always mean more freedom.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2004, 09:56:34 AM »
Too much; that way you could flee to Canada easily Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2004, 10:11:45 AM »
Too much. As if that existed.
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2004, 11:44:56 AM »
Not too much.  Not too little.  Just the right amount.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2004, 12:52:54 PM »
Quote from: Philip on November 20, 2004, 02:40:41 AM
As a matter of philosophy, what side is it better to error on?

Need you ask??


Let them eat cake!

(I'll take my chances.)
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2004, 06:41:27 PM »
Quote from: Bugs on November 20, 2004, 11:44:56 AM
Not too much.  Not too little.  Just the right amount.

not an option in this poll.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2004, 06:42:59 PM »
Their is such a thing as to much freedom.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2004, 06:45:38 PM »
correct
see: Libertarian economic policy
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2004, 06:50:48 PM »
It's pretty hard for you, yourself, to ever think you have too much freedom. But for the people around you, you can have too much freedom.
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2004, 10:44:35 PM »
too little freedom if I'm supreme dctator, otherwise too much Cheesy

Because i'm arrogant and I know I'll be supreme dictator some day, i'll go too little Wink
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2004, 12:03:16 AM »
Quote from: CARLHAYDEN on November 20, 2004, 07:51:43 AM
There's no such thing as "too much freedom."
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2004, 12:24:04 AM »
Would a country where murdering people is legal as long as it's not July or December be an example of too much freedom, or no?
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2004, 01:25:51 AM »
Quote from: Philip on November 21, 2004, 12:24:04 AM
Would a country where murdering people is legal as long as it's not July or December be an example of too much freedom, or no?

If I murder someone I'm actually destroying freedom, so no.
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2004, 01:28:33 AM »
Well, one person's freedom was destroyed. Another's was exercised.
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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2004, 02:28:43 AM »
Quote from: Philip on November 21, 2004, 01:28:33 AM
Well, one person's freedom was destroyed. Another's was exercised.

The net result is less freedom.

The maximization of freedom would not entail legalizing murder.  "There is no such thing as too much freedom" doesn't mean "we shouldn't have any legal system."
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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2004, 08:18:56 AM »
I think Philip is talking about utilitarianism...if a group of sadists torture someone to death their combined pleasure might exceed the suffering for the one tortured. So if you get rid of absolute morals you ca justify a lot of different actions.
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2004, 11:25:05 AM »
Quote from: Gustaf on November 21, 2004, 08:18:56 AM
I think Philip is talking about utilitarianism...if a group of sadists torture someone to death their combined pleasure might exceed the suffering for the one tortured. So if you get rid of absolute morals you ca justify a lot of different actions.

I disagree.  Death = black hole for freedom.

Besides, utilitarianism is only talking about maximizing the amount of "good,"  which is different from maximizing the amount of "freedom."  I actually disagree strongly with utilitarianism and favor a deontological method at looking at what we ought to do.
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2004, 12:41:15 PM »
No, not too much freedom...

Arseloads of hot, stinky freedom with a cherry on top!

Hey, there's a good campaign slogan for the Fantasy board!

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