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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2011, 09:53:31 PM »

yo, it's not the GOP that has moved on these issues, it's the Left. 
Should we pretend like it's 1940 forever? For that matter, are you 100% sure everybody was a fundy Christian in 1940?

no, not all, but it was the fundy Christian types who sought a country based on religious freedom, and it was the fundy Christian types who fought against slavery and pushed for equality for blacks...whereas the Dem base has historically been on the wrong side of morality.  such is the case today. 

There's so much wrong with this it's not funny... but since it's our walking religious echo-chamber it's a pointless exercise.
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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2011, 12:29:38 PM »

What happened is that excessive hyperboles made slight changes to their rhetorical style without changing their excessive hyperbole policies.
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« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2011, 12:30:59 PM »

What happened is that excessive hyperboles made slight changes to their rhetorical style without changing their excessive hyperbole policies.

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Jmfcst made some sense at least, but he forgot to mention all the toe tapping and 'sugarbowl' parties going on with the RNC crowd.
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« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2011, 06:53:33 PM »

The 'centrism' of the early Cold War era is largely exaggerated. The 'post-war consensus' was a period of time in which ideology was contrasted with an externality, rather than reflected internally; you cannot possibly have that level of political co-operation within a functional democracy in the absence of an external, hostile Other that looks set on bludgeoning your metaphorical nose with a nuclear baseball bat.

Also, the conditions that gave rise to it are no longer viable in America. Remember that 1960 is a mere twenty-five years removed from the waves of insurrectionary strikes accompanying the rise of the Congress of Industrial Organizations and the unionist movement more broadly. What makes more sense to you: agitating those surviving veterans of the labor movement into radicalizing just when it looked as if the Second World War had put those questions to rest, or conceding to their most palatable demands and hoping their patriotism and fear of nuclear annihilation would lead them to refrain from making others?

SmokingCricket is right in saying it was an 'aberration'. Liberal democracies are rarely so stable.
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2011, 12:44:09 AM »

Where are the Thomas Deweys, Dwight Eisenhower, Nelson Rockefellers, Gerald Fords, Harry Trumans and Bill Clintons?Huh

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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2011, 05:18:33 AM »

no, not all, but it was the fundy Christian types who sought a country based on religious freedom, and it was the fundy Christian types who fought against slavery and pushed for equality for blacks...whereas the Dem base has historically been on the wrong side of morality.  such is the case today. 

What issue of today has anything to do with 'morality', jmfcst?  There's only one real issue in american politics nowadays - inequality.
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