Who is the more conservative Democrat?

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Walter Mitty by a mile.

[WalterMitty]

im much more liberal than most democrats on this board, especially when it comes to issues like social safety net concerns, affirmative action, equal opportunity, gun control, tobacco policies etc.

im not a union stooge and am generally pro business.  i support spreading democracy.  therefore im labeled as right wing by the misguided on here.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Depends. Foreign policy aside (and right now I'm not disagreeing with him on that either), Walter's left-wing on all the things I'm most staunchly right-wing on, so regardless of ideological placement, his is most repulsive to me. Given that "right-wing Democrat" has become an insult, I'll vote Walt.

[traininthedistance]

im much more liberal than most democrats on this board, especially when it comes to issues like social safety net concerns, affirmative action, equal opportunity, gun control, tobacco policies etc.

im not a union stooge and am generally pro business.  i support spreading democracy.  therefore im labeled as right wing by the misguided on here.

The bolded part, at the very least, just ain't true.

[WalterMitty]

im much more liberal than most democrats on this board, especially when it comes to issues like social safety net concerns, affirmative action, equal opportunity, gun control, tobacco policies etc.

im not a union stooge and am generally pro business.  i support spreading democracy.  therefore im labeled as right wing by the misguided on here.

The bolded part, at the very least, just ain't true.

i believe in a robust safety net to help the weakest in society, without onerous restrictions and time limits.

i do support, however, at least the partial privatization of social security.  why shouldnt americans get a better return for their money?

[traininthedistance]

im much more liberal than most democrats on this board, especially when it comes to issues like social safety net concerns, affirmative action, equal opportunity, gun control, tobacco policies etc.

im not a union stooge and am generally pro business.  i support spreading democracy.  therefore im labeled as right wing by the misguided on here.

The bolded part, at the very least, just ain't true.

i believe in a robust safety net to help the weakest in society, without onerous restrictions and time limits.

i do support, however, at least the partial privatization of social security.  why shouldnt americans get a better return for their money?

The whole point of a safety net is that it mitigates risk, and is there for you if the bad sh*t goes down.

Privatizing Social Security would completely nullify that. 

[WalterMitty]

im much more liberal than most democrats on this board, especially when it comes to issues like social safety net concerns, affirmative action, equal opportunity, gun control, tobacco policies etc.

im not a union stooge and am generally pro business.  i support spreading democracy.  therefore im labeled as right wing by the misguided on here.

The bolded part, at the very least, just ain't true.

i believe in a robust safety net to help the weakest in society, without onerous restrictions and time limits.

i do support, however, at least the partial privatization of social security.  why shouldnt americans get a better return for their money?

The whole point of a safety net is that it mitigates risk, and is there for you if the bad sh*t goes down.

Privatizing Social Security would completely nullify that. 

that is why any privatization should be partial and voluntary.

if you are okay with the prospect of a $900 check per month at the end of your working years, fine with me.

[traininthedistance]

FWIW, and I kind of hate to admit this, I suspect my political views are closer to Mitty than to Miles, if only for the reason that I am a proud enemy of coal, and think Bloomberg has done a great many good things for NYC.

But Miles is the better poster by far, and the way Mitty presents himself on here is certainly more "right wing" on average.  

[Torie]

Privatizing social security is just about the worst idea floating out there that still has some currency to it. Talk about moral hazards.  Privatizing SS would generate a moral hazard, that makes the one associated with the uninsured using ER's, or simply not paying their medical bills, mere child's play be comparison. On top of that about 90% of investors (yes 90%), do worse than the market indexes in their investment performance, and about 50% catastrophically worse. Between churning and high fees, and inappropriate risk management, the ones who really get rich off the investment industry, are the providers, rather than the investors themselves (which one can see by looking at those charts that one can get richer off charging 2% on someone else's assets per year, than owning the assets themselves, over say a 20 or 30 year period).

Harry and I seem to so far agree about just about nothing - it's the null set.

[WalterMitty]

im not too familiar with miles.

i think the two biggest right wing democrats are frodo and bushie.  bushie doesnt really count since he basically just loves incumbents.

[© tweed]

can we stop with these attempts at assigning Mitty an ideology?  as I've said before, he has none, no coherent worldview, and is but a conglomeration of otherwise random opinions of people and on issues.  sure, you can 'average them out', but it's an utterly useless exercise.

[Vosem]

Miles, though Walter presents himself as being rather more right-wing than he is.

[TDAS04]

Walter Mitty on economic and maybe foreign policy issues, Miles on social issues. 

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

walter is probably the most conservative democrat i've ever seen

[H. Ross Peron]

Mitty if only because of his rhetoric and praise of Dubya. OTOH, I'm disappointed by Miles' intention to support Christie over Hillary Clinton.

[AkSaber]

Wally is among the last forumites who I'd label anything related to conservative.

[Miles]

Mitty if only because of his rhetoric and praise of Dubya. OTOH, I'm disappointed by Miles' intention to support Christie over Hillary Clinton.

I've actually been thinking that over recently...

[RogueBeaver]

In reality? Miles.

[Keystone Phil]

can we stop with these attempts at assigning Mitty an ideology?  as I've said before, he has none, no coherent worldview, and is but a conglomeration of otherwise random opinions of people and on issues.  sure, you can 'average them out', but it's an utterly useless exercise.

Tweed's sensible post of the year.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

im not a union stooge and am generally pro business.  i support spreading democracy.  therefore im labeled as right wing by the misguided on here.

The thing is, these issues (at least the ones in the first sentence) are pretty key to the left-right distinction in this country and have been for a long time.

Miles is further right overall, but in (I think) a far less objectionable way (not less objectionable on every issue but less objectionable, again, overall).

can we stop with these attempts at assigning Mitty an ideology?  as I've said before, he has none, no coherent worldview, and is but a conglomeration of otherwise random opinions of people and on issues.  sure, you can 'average them out', but it's an utterly useless exercise.

Tweed's sensible post of the year.

Also this.

[DINGO Joe]

Mitty strikes me as a neocon, so he's pretty much dead to me.  Miles is young and still trying things on and at his core strikes me as a NC Dem which is a pretty good brand.  His recent coal poseurism is annoying though.

[Napoleon]

In reality? Miles.

Yeah I like Miles a lot but he is clearly more conservative than Walter dgaf Mitty.

[Hash]

The one who is an admitted fascist.

[Miles]

I kinda just consider myself normal for a Cajun Democrat.

On social issues, my views are really informed by the Catholic faith. Then again, I try not to wear those issues out on my sleeve. My biggest issue is education and I think we need a more progressive tax system, so that's why I lean left on econ. On energy, I'm obviously much closer to the Republicans.

[Goldwater]

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