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« on: March 17, 2014, 05:34:54 PM »

Is giving Amnesty to illegal immigrants a slap in the face to Legal immigrants who went through all legal channels to become a honest citizen.

I find it disgusting that politicians is using Amnesty as a way to gain votes.

Personally, I think anyone that enters this nation illegally should be viewed in high suspicion like if they're a terrorist and punished to the full extent of the Law.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 05:36:56 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 05:46:42 PM »

Is giving Amnesty to illegal immigrants a slap in the face to Legal immigrants who went through all legal channels to become a honest citizen.

I find it disgusting that politicians is using Amnesty as a way to gain votes.

Personally, I think anyone that enters this nation illegally should be viewed in high suspicion like if they're a terrorist and punished to the full extent of the Law.

I think that all posters with a Kentucky avatar are mentally deficient and should be banned...since we're talking nonsense...
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 05:50:39 PM »

No. Anyone who wants to live in this country should be allowed to live in this country.
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 06:33:05 PM »

I hope he is trolling.
And to answer the question, of course not.
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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2014, 06:43:39 PM »

No.  Amnesty is a conservative position which supports traditional families and enables individuals to recognize the fruits of their labor.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2014, 06:46:19 PM »

No.  Amnesty is a conservative position which supports traditional families and enables individuals to recognize the fruits of their labor.
Finally, a Republican here agrees with me.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2014, 06:51:35 PM »

I don't support amnesty, but I do think there should be a path to citizenship.  It would be long and hard, but you could become a citizen.  We also would have to strengthen the border.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2014, 07:03:04 PM »
« Edited: March 17, 2014, 07:22:43 PM by AggregateDemand »

No. Amnesty is how you eliminate a labor black market and improve the lives of immigrants and non-immigrants alike. However, you need to make sure amnesty is what the market demands. We have many migrant farmers who are simply trapped in the US because our ag visa system is royally screwed up.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2014, 07:19:00 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2014, 11:43:47 PM »

No.  Amnesty is a conservative position which supports traditional families and enables individuals to recognize the fruits of their labor.

Turns out you agree with the LDS Church on immigration, then (or you might even be a bit more liberal than them). And me, of course.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2014, 05:09:54 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2014, 08:18:59 AM »

No. It is just a slap in the face of the working class/underclass (classifies as «The middle class» in American political discourse) that have to compete with them for the same low wage jobs. That isn’t a concern for Wall Street/The Chamber of Commerce/Big agro, so it isn’t a problem for the Democrats or the Republicans either. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2014, 08:22:05 AM »

I think in the long run, it's the only logical way to handle it. As long as it's backed up with documentation and a probation period. Under no circumstances should it be easier to get citizenship if you were illegal.

But overall, no.
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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2014, 09:12:47 AM »

Is giving Amnesty to illegal immigrants a slap in the face to Legal immigrants who went through all legal channels to become a honest citizen.

I find it disgusting that politicians is using Amnesty as a way to gain votes.

Personally, I think anyone that enters this nation illegally should be viewed in high suspicion like if they're a terrorist and punished to the full extent of the Law.
Okay.
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« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2014, 05:08:25 PM »
« Edited: March 18, 2014, 05:19:25 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

Of course. Illegal aliens are by nature of their presence in the country criminals and will always be until they are outside of national borders.

I should add that almost all illegal aliens are God fearing, hard working, well meaning people. But it wouldn't be right to simply handwave their crimes away. Until the laws are changed, they remain the law.
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2014, 06:09:00 PM »

Of course. Illegal aliens are by nature of their presence in the country criminals and will always be until they are outside of national borders.

That statement right there is why we have a never-ending issue with illegal immigration. Simply building a big fence and pulling over everyone of Mexican decent and demanding papers, which was Jan Brewer's plan in AZ only makes the problem worse, and sends the message that we as a society hate immigrants and don't want anyone from overseas in this nation.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2014, 07:38:56 PM »

Of course. Illegal aliens are by nature of their presence in the country criminals and will always be until they are outside of national borders.

That statement right there is why we have a never-ending issue with illegal immigration. Simply building a big fence and pulling over everyone of Mexican decent and demanding papers, which was Jan Brewer's plan in AZ only makes the problem worse, and sends the message that we as a society hate immigrants and don't want anyone from overseas in this nation.
I'm not advising SB1070, but if your proven to be an illegal alien for whatever reason, you should be deported. And undocumented aliens are not immigrants, so lets quit calling this "anti immigrant."
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2014, 08:35:55 PM »

Of course. Illegal aliens are by nature of their presence in the country criminals and will always be until they are outside of national borders.

That statement right there is why we have a never-ending issue with illegal immigration. Simply building a big fence and pulling over everyone of Mexican decent and demanding papers, which was Jan Brewer's plan in AZ only makes the problem worse, and sends the message that we as a society hate immigrants and don't want anyone from overseas in this nation.
I'm not advising SB1070, but if your proven to be an illegal alien for whatever reason, you should be deported. And undocumented aliens are not immigrants, so lets quit calling this "anti immigrant."

Weren't you pretending to have left white supremacism?
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« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2014, 08:58:06 PM »

Of course. Illegal aliens are by nature of their presence in the country criminals and will always be until they are outside of national borders.

That statement right there is why we have a never-ending issue with illegal immigration. Simply building a big fence and pulling over everyone of Mexican decent and demanding papers, which was Jan Brewer's plan in AZ only makes the problem worse, and sends the message that we as a society hate immigrants and don't want anyone from overseas in this nation.
I'm not advising SB1070, but if your proven to be an illegal alien for whatever reason, you should be deported. And undocumented aliens are not immigrants, so lets quit calling this "anti immigrant."

Weren't you pretending to have left white supremacism?
Being pro law and order is apparently racist now? Whatever. You also believe in the use of Molotov cocktails so I don't bother taking this dig at me seriously.
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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2014, 09:14:55 PM »

Of course. Illegal aliens are by nature of their presence in the country criminals and will always be until they are outside of national borders.

That statement right there is why we have a never-ending issue with illegal immigration. Simply building a big fence and pulling over everyone of Mexican decent and demanding papers, which was Jan Brewer's plan in AZ only makes the problem worse, and sends the message that we as a society hate immigrants and don't want anyone from overseas in this nation.
I'm not advising SB1070, but if your proven to be an illegal alien for whatever reason, you should be deported. And undocumented aliens are not immigrants, so lets quit calling this "anti immigrant."

Weren't you pretending to have left white supremacism?
Being pro law and order is apparently racist now? Whatever. You also believe in the use of Molotov cocktails so I don't bother taking this dig at me seriously.

Being anti-amnesty isn't being pro-law and order, especially given some of your other positions. You support it because you don't want drak foreigners in your country.

And, me believing in Molotov cocktails? Aren't you confusing me with someone else?
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2014, 09:21:48 PM »

Of course. Illegal aliens are by nature of their presence in the country criminals and will always be until they are outside of national borders.

That statement right there is why we have a never-ending issue with illegal immigration. Simply building a big fence and pulling over everyone of Mexican decent and demanding papers, which was Jan Brewer's plan in AZ only makes the problem worse, and sends the message that we as a society hate immigrants and don't want anyone from overseas in this nation.
I'm not advising SB1070, but if your proven to be an illegal alien for whatever reason, you should be deported. And undocumented aliens are not immigrants, so lets quit calling this "anti immigrant."

Weren't you pretending to have left white supremacism?
Being pro law and order is apparently racist now? Whatever. You also believe in the use of Molotov cocktails so I don't bother taking this dig at me seriously.

Being anti-amnesty isn't being pro-law and order, especially given some of your other positions. You support it because you don't want drak foreigners in your country.
Playing amateur psychologist now? Isn't that Snowstalker's job? Anyway, your really on a roll tonight. I presumed you were a more intellectually honest poster, but I guess I was wrong.

I oppose amnesty because I believe it rewards bad behavior. The law is the law. You can change it and then pardon all 12 million illegals, but you can't keep illegal immigration on the books and then allow 12 million to get a free pass while future arrivals get deported.
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2014, 11:19:55 PM »

I don't think it's a slap in the face, but I don't particularly care either way.

A free society is one that is accessible to all who want to join it, amnesty is the solution that maximizes individual sovereignty.

Furthermore, under the equal protection of labor laws and the minimum wage, undocumented immigrants (as that will be an accurate descriptor post-amnesty) will be competing for jobs based on their merit rather than low labor cost. This is good for the economy generally.
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