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« on: June 12, 2014, 10:37:28 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 10:53:13 AM »

Maduro is a corrupt leader and he needs to be taken down. The treatment of citizens in Venezuela is deplorable and you should know that.

We need to get Venezuela to a state where it can thrive, not die.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 10:58:27 AM »

Maduro is a corrupt leader and he needs to be taken down. The treatment of citizens in Venezuela is deplorable and you should know that.

We need to get Venezuela to a state where it can thrive, not die.

Surely we can better spend our money at home, rather than on filling the coffers of the right-wing Venezuelan opposition? The treatment of Atlasian citizens by Atlasian bosses is deplorable and I know that. I would rather focus our efforts here than try and play world police in Venezuela (to the benefit of the right-wing, anti-worker Venezuelan opposition, of course)
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2014, 11:02:54 AM »

Maduro is a corrupt leader and he needs to be taken down. The treatment of citizens in Venezuela is deplorable and you should know that.

We need to get Venezuela to a state where it can thrive, not die.

Surely we can better spend our money at home, rather than on filling the coffers of the right-wing Venezuelan opposition? The treatment of Atlasian citizens by Atlasian bosses is deplorable and I know that. I would rather focus our efforts here than try and play world police in Venezuela (to the benefit of the right-wing, anti-worker Venezuelan opposition, of course)

Workers here have protections, however the people of Venezuela do not. We cannot let these people who support democracy just die off. We need to do something about it, and we need to help these people get a stable, democratic government, or to get them the hell out of there.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 11:06:49 AM »

Maduro is a corrupt leader and he needs to be taken down. The treatment of citizens in Venezuela is deplorable and you should know that.

We need to get Venezuela to a state where it can thrive, not die.

Surely we can better spend our money at home, rather than on filling the coffers of the right-wing Venezuelan opposition? The treatment of Atlasian citizens by Atlasian bosses is deplorable and I know that. I would rather focus our efforts here than try and play world police in Venezuela (to the benefit of the right-wing, anti-worker Venezuelan opposition, of course)

Workers here have protections, however the people of Venezuela do not. We cannot let these people who support democracy just die off. We need to do something about it, and we need to help these people get a stable, democratic government, or to get them the hell out of there.

Workers don't have protection against capitalism, in here or in Venezuela, although the latter have moved a lot further forward in that regard than have we and we have a lot to learn from them in that regard.

I actually agree that we shouldn't allow democracy to die in Venezuela - and so we obviously SHOULD NOT give any aid or support to the opposition, which wants to crush actual workers' democracy in the factories and in the workplace and replace it with top-down dictatorship by management and Capital.

In Atlasia, as well as in Venezuela, our motto should be the same:

No War But the Class War.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 12:55:56 PM »

Maduro is a corrupt leader and he needs to be taken down. The treatment of citizens in Venezuela is deplorable and you should know that.

We need to get Venezuela to a state where it can thrive, not die.

What do you mean by "taken down", exactly?
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 03:10:49 PM »

Maduro is a corrupt leader and he needs to be taken down. The treatment of citizens in Venezuela is deplorable and you should know that.

We need to get Venezuela to a state where it can thrive, not die.

What do you mean by "taken down", exactly?

Where he's not the leader of anything?
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 04:01:40 PM »

Maduro is a corrupt leader and he needs to be taken down. The treatment of citizens in Venezuela is deplorable and you should know that.

We need to get Venezuela to a state where it can thrive, not die.

What do you mean by "taken down", exactly?

Where he's not the leader of anything?

How would this happen? A military coup which would place some empty suit in Caracas while Venezuela's public assets are chopped up and auctioned off?
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 04:05:00 PM »

Chavez was ousted in the Atlasian universe about 4-5 years ago. Any discussion of the demerits or merits of Maduro is moot.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2014, 07:21:19 AM »

Lumine wants a cheeseburger.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2014, 07:38:40 AM »

Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2014, 09:16:06 AM »

I just want some bourbon, but alas, I'll have to wait at least another day.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2014, 09:28:24 AM »

I just want some bourbon, but alas, I'll have to wait at least another day.

I'll join you. Windjammer can come if he grills the burgers.
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2014, 09:30:50 AM »

I just want some bourbon, but alas, I'll have to wait at least another day.

I'll join you. Windjammer can come if he grills the burgers.

Oh perfect. I will use that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griddle
Food is so wonderful with that Cheesy.

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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 01:15:59 PM »

I hope you will all stop by my office for a, shall we say, "hempfest" (as legalized recently by yours truly and the President) afterwards.
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