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« on: October 26, 2014, 09:57:50 PM »

How much do you want to bet that the early exits will show Grimes narrowly beating McConnell, Mary Burke stomping Scott Walker and all sorts of Democratic wet dream material? Reality usually sets in a couple of hours after their release.

Every year the same thing happens and I still get a rush out of those silly early exit polls. I guess, at the end of the day, they're just part of what makes election night so much fun.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2014, 10:21:24 PM »

How much do you want to bet that the early exits will show Grimes narrowly beating McConnell, Mary Burke stomping Scott Walker and all sorts of Democratic wet dream material? Reality usually sets in a couple of hours after their release.

Every year the same thing happens and I still get a rush out of those silly early exit polls. I guess, at the end of the day, they're just part of what makes election night so much fun.

Just like when reality set in before November 2nd, 2004?
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2014, 10:31:21 PM »

How much do you want to bet that the early exits will show Grimes narrowly beating McConnell, Mary Burke stomping Scott Walker and all sorts of Democratic wet dream material? Reality usually sets in a couple of hours after their release.

Every year the same thing happens and I still get a rush out of those silly early exit polls. I guess, at the end of the day, they're just part of what makes election night so much fun.

Ever since the post-2004 reforms that put an end to the early exit poll leaks until 5pm or later, I don't think the exit polls have been that bad.  I know there've been some weird cases in primaries, but in general elections, can you name any races post-2004 in which the 5pm exit poll leaks were way off?
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2014, 10:34:10 PM »

How much do you want to bet that the early exits will show Grimes narrowly beating McConnell, Mary Burke stomping Scott Walker and all sorts of Democratic wet dream material? Reality usually sets in a couple of hours after their release.

Every year the same thing happens and I still get a rush out of those silly early exit polls. I guess, at the end of the day, they're just part of what makes election night so much fun.

Just like when reality set in before November 2nd, 2004?

Oh dear, that one was just brutal... because I actually passionately cared about that election.

I've never come close to caring as much about the outcome of an election since (probably for the best).

I do distinctly remember Kerry leading in Ohio and Florida in the early exit polls. Sheesh.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2014, 10:37:35 PM »

How much do you want to bet that the early exits will show Grimes narrowly beating McConnell, Mary Burke stomping Scott Walker and all sorts of Democratic wet dream material? Reality usually sets in a couple of hours after their release.

Every year the same thing happens and I still get a rush out of those silly early exit polls. I guess, at the end of the day, they're just part of what makes election night so much fun.

Just like when reality set in before November 2nd, 2004?

Oh dear, that one was just brutal... because I actually passionately cared about that election.

I've never come close to caring as much about the outcome of an election since (probably for the best).

I do distinctly remember Kerry leading in Ohio and Florida in the early exit polls. Sheesh.

Those were unweighted exits that got leaked to the media at something like 1pm Eastern.  Very early.

Again, because of that fiasco, the networks reformed their exit polling practice, and now sequester the exit poll people until 5pm Eastern, and nothing leaks before then.  Thus the post-5pm wave of exits are usually more or less accurate…..at least in general elections.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2014, 10:51:04 PM »

How much do you want to bet that the early exits will show Grimes narrowly beating McConnell, Mary Burke stomping Scott Walker and all sorts of Democratic wet dream material? Reality usually sets in a couple of hours after their release.

Every year the same thing happens and I still get a rush out of those silly early exit polls. I guess, at the end of the day, they're just part of what makes election night so much fun.

Ever since the post-2004 reforms that put an end to the early exit poll leaks until 5pm or later, I don't think the exit polls have been that bad.  I know there've been some weird cases in primaries, but in general elections, can you name any races post-2004 in which the 5pm exit poll leaks were way off?


I seem to recall the early exits showing Feingold tied with Johnson in 2010. He lost by 5% in the end. I also seem to recall them showing Kirk and Toomey losing.

You're right that they're probably not quite as bad these days as they were circa 2004 though.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2014, 11:19:33 PM »

I will now accept my accolades.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2014, 11:38:39 PM »

How much do you want to bet that the early exits will show Grimes narrowly beating McConnell, Mary Burke stomping Scott Walker and all sorts of Democratic wet dream material? Reality usually sets in a couple of hours after their release.

Every year the same thing happens and I still get a rush out of those silly early exit polls. I guess, at the end of the day, they're just part of what makes election night so much fun.

Ever since the post-2004 reforms that put an end to the early exit poll leaks until 5pm or later, I don't think the exit polls have been that bad.  I know there've been some weird cases in primaries, but in general elections, can you name any races post-2004 in which the 5pm exit poll leaks were way off?


I seem to recall the early exits showing Feingold tied with Johnson in 2010. He lost by 5% in the end. I also seem to recall them showing Kirk and Toomey losing.

You're right that they're probably not quite as bad these days as they were circa 2004 though.

Drudge's exit poll leak had Johnson beating Feingold:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127349.msg2706905#msg2706905

though that shifted to a tie by the time all the polls closed.  Likewise, Kirk leading by 6 in IL in the first leaked exits, though that also shifted to a tie by the time the polls closed:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127349.msg2707136#msg2707136

Toomey led 51/49 in the early exit polls, which is pretty much exactly what the final result was:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127334.msg2707296#msg2707296

The 2010 national House exit polls showed the GOP winning 52%-46%, which was pretty close:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=127349.msg2706914#msg2706914
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2014, 01:42:11 AM »

I still remember CNN having Walker tied with Barrett in the recall election. I was already to concede that he lost before the counting started, but then they had lift my sprits, only to have them crushed hours later.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2014, 11:32:16 AM »

Weren't the 2013 VA-Gov. exits polls regularly revised throughout the evening as Cuch led early returns and the media started to think that he could actually win?
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2014, 11:34:55 AM »

Weren't the 2013 VA-Gov. exits polls regularly revised throughout the evening as Cuch led early returns and the media started to think that he could actually win?

Yes, that seems to be a new trend.

And I hate it.

An exit poll is a poll that should not be "adjusted" as more votes come in, so that it matches the final result.

An exit poll should be released after polls close, with that being the final numbers (even if that poll turns out to be off by 5% or so).
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2014, 01:31:31 PM »

I think I was one of very few who wasn't one bit fooled by the early Virginia numbers in 2012 or 2013. When McAuliffe was more or less matching Obama's numbers in southeast VA I figured he would win.
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2014, 01:57:18 PM »

Weren't the 2013 VA-Gov. exits polls regularly revised throughout the evening as Cuch led early returns and the media started to think that he could actually win?

Yes, that seems to be a new trend.

And I hate it.

An exit poll is a poll that should not be "adjusted" as more votes come in, so that it matches the final result.

An exit poll should be released after polls close, with that being the final numbers (even if that poll turns out to be off by 5% or so).

I'm pretty sure that's how American exit polling has always worked. It's not like Europe, where they publicly release the number as soon as polls close. The point of American exit polls is to allow the networks/AP to forecast and call races, not for the public to know the margin right when polls are closed. Even if you look on the CNN website, which has pretty detailed demographic breakdowns, they never actually post the top-line exit poll number; you have to figure that out yourself by doing the math.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2014, 07:19:01 PM »

It happened again. Exit polls suck!
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