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« on: January 17, 2015, 04:25:18 PM »
Under any circumstances could Gary Johnson do as well as Ross Perot did in 92?
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2015, 04:28:01 PM »
No. He'd be lucky to reach Nader 2000 levels.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 04:29:22 PM »
Only if both major parties forget to obtain ballot access.
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2015, 04:33:13 PM »
Libertarians arent serious about winning an election. Perot was serious but he ran a campaign as though we elect the prtesident in a popular vote. Perot did well in ME, MN, NH and the west. With a change in strategy he could have won EVs.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2015, 04:36:29 PM »
No, Perot had money.
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2015, 04:37:05 PM »
Quote from: bobloblaw on January 17, 2015, 04:33:13 PM
Libertarians arent serious about winning an election. Perot was serious but he ran a campaign as though we elect the prtesident in a popular vote. Perot did well in ME, MN, NH and the west. With a change in strategy he could have won EVs.

He might have won some of those states if he hadn't dropped out temporarily.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2015, 04:40:06 PM »

This, and money is an even bigger factor than it was in 92.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2015, 04:55:54 PM »
Quote from: IceSpear on January 17, 2015, 04:28:01 PM
No. He'd be lucky to reach Nader 2000 levels.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2015, 05:00:01 PM »
It seems like it was a lot easier to be a third party candidate in the past, Perot, Anderson, Wallace (both of them), La Follette, etc.  Even when actual elected officials run (Johnson, Goode, McKinney, Barr, etc.) they get very few votes.  Ralph Nader, an activist, did better than people who won Congressional and statewide elections.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2015, 09:06:18 PM »
No. The only 2016 scenario where a third party matches or exceeds Perot's performance is if the Tea Party splits off from the GOP and runs its own candidate.
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2015, 10:16:54 PM »
Libertarians are not popular outside of Atlas and the interwebz in general. IRL nobody cares let alone heard of Gary Johnson.
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2015, 08:08:36 AM »
Quote from: Zyzz on January 19, 2015, 10:16:54 PM
Libertarians are not popular outside of Atlas and the interwebz in general. IRL nobody cares let alone heard of Gary Johnson.

I saw people with Gary Johnson "Live Free" bumper stickers and I knew people who supported him (some were too young to vote).  I also knew a Conservative Democrat who voted for Romney but had briefly considered voting for Johnson.
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2015, 08:55:46 AM »
Quote from: Polls_PuffPass on January 19, 2015, 11:53:04 PM
Quote from: Zyzz on January 19, 2015, 10:16:54 PM
Libertarians are not popular outside of Atlas and the interwebz in general. IRL nobody cares let alone heard of Gary Johnson.
I mean, he got a million votes, but okay.

As was shown by the election totals, a million votes does not mean "popular". Three friggin' percent in his home state. Less than one nationwide.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015, 09:44:15 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2015, 01:55:45 PM »
Quote from: Cathcon on January 20, 2015, 08:55:46 AM
Quote from: Polls_PuffPass on January 19, 2015, 11:53:04 PM
Quote from: Zyzz on January 19, 2015, 10:16:54 PM
Libertarians are not popular outside of Atlas and the interwebz in general. IRL nobody cares let alone heard of Gary Johnson.
I mean, he got a million votes, but okay.

As was shown by the election totals, a million votes does not mean "popular". Three friggin' percent in his home state. Less than one nationwide.

That's pretty good for no media recognition and a massive financial disadvantage.
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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2015, 03:45:55 PM »
Quote from: Polls_PuffPass on January 19, 2015, 11:53:04 PM
Quote from: Zyzz on January 19, 2015, 10:16:54 PM
Libertarians are not popular outside of Atlas and the interwebz in general. IRL nobody cares let alone heard of Gary Johnson.
I mean, he got a million votes, but okay.

A million votes--when the other guys also got a million votes--is "popular."

A million votes--when one of the other guys got 66 million and 61 million votes, respectively--is not.


This is the correct response.
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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2015, 04:44:53 PM »
Not going to happen, but he could get 2-3% if there are a lot of Independent defectors.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2015, 08:38:11 PM »
If he got a bit more money, publicity, and some endorsements, he might pull 5%... In NM and MT, so maybe 2% nationwide.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2015, 10:56:49 PM »
Gary Johnson is like a car without an engine. And not even a good car.
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