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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2015, 03:13:00 PM »

It's one of those things that had an overall net positive impact on the world even if HPish.
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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2015, 03:54:25 PM »

Isn't "Freedom Empire" an oxymoron?
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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2015, 04:20:54 PM »

Isn't "Freedom Empire" an oxymoron?

Of course, but this is Atlas.
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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2015, 09:51:52 PM »

Come to think of it, the idea that the British had a divine mission to end forever the scourge of slavery also contributed significantly to British conquests further east. Isn't history fun.

Wasn't that also a big reason for king Leopold's conquest of the Congo? Obviously rather ironic.
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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2015, 09:58:03 PM »

Wasn't that also a big reason for king Leopold's conquest of the Congo? Obviously rather ironic.

Yes, although that was entirely disingenuous on his part.
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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2015, 10:01:44 PM »

Come to think of it, the idea that the British had a divine mission to end forever the scourge of slavery also contributed significantly to British conquests further east. Isn't history fun.

and in East Africa (Zanzibar, etc).

and the thing is... they did clamp down on the Slave Trade.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2015, 10:30:50 PM »

Horrible, horrible empire.
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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2015, 01:14:48 PM »

and the thing is... they did clamp down on the Slave Trade.

Exactly. History is complicated isn't it?
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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2015, 02:25:18 PM »

It had a few positive effects, but of course those are far outweighed by its utter horribleness in other areas.  Clear HE, like all empires.

and the thing is... they did clamp down on the Slave Trade.

Exactly. History is complicated isn't it?

It most certainly is.
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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2015, 02:52:38 PM »

Come to think of it, the idea that the British had a divine mission to end forever the scourge of slavery also contributed significantly to British conquests further east. Isn't history fun.

and in East Africa (Zanzibar, etc).

and the thing is... they did clamp down on the Slave Trade.

As if that was the main reason to swallow up huge chunks of East Africa and southern Arabia.
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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2015, 05:49:37 PM »

A Freedom Empire, despite everything bad.
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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2015, 06:00:36 PM »

Not as bad as some other empires (I don't think the worst crimes of the Empire match the sheer horrors of the conquistadors wiping out entire civilisations for the hell of it or Leopald's Free State), but pretty lousy.

The Amritsar massacre, the genocide of the Aborigines, concentration camps and mass internment in places like Aden/South Africa/Cyprus, the Opium wars, the insane handling of the Irish Famine and the wipeout of the Iraqi rebellion for starters - all heinous crimes that stain the nation's history. I really really hate the argument that goes "oh well it sucks and all, but it had to be done because colonialism was inevitable/for the greater good".
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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2015, 06:32:56 PM »

I am a product of it. FF.
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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2015, 06:37:11 PM »

The most selfish reason here, congrats.
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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2015, 06:38:17 PM »

Come to think of it, the idea that the British had a divine mission to end forever the scourge of slavery also contributed significantly to British conquests further east. Isn't history fun.

and in East Africa (Zanzibar, etc).

and the thing is... they did clamp down on the Slave Trade.

As if that was the main reason to swallow up huge chunks of East Africa and southern Arabia.

Contributed to it, Snowstalker, contributed.
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« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2015, 02:54:30 PM »

Horrible, and what's worst is that it lasted 5 centuries.
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« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2015, 10:42:41 PM »

 Terrible Empire of course, however, my country's empire was far worse. Tongue
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« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2015, 10:58:06 PM »

Very low, though my family were among those who benefited from it...
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« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2015, 04:42:13 PM »

Massive FE. Much of the blood that flows through me is derived from those that supported King/Queen and Country.
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