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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2017, 02:09:31 PM »


-The "liberal Barry Goldwater" was McGovern. Barry Goldwater always got around 20% in the polls. Nowadays, Bernie is more popular than any Democrat. Think about that.
Bernie is more popular now because he was Hillary's strongest opponent and many Democrats believe he would've beaten Trump. Had Trump lost, Ted Cruz would probably be very popular now as people would think he could've beaten Hillary.
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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2017, 02:16:31 PM »


-The "liberal Barry Goldwater" was McGovern. Barry Goldwater always got around 20% in the polls. Nowadays, Bernie is more popular than any Democrat. Think about that.
Bernie is more popular now because he was Hillary's strongest opponent and many Democrats believe he would've beaten Trump. Had Trump lost, Ted Cruz would probably be very popular now as people would think he could've beaten Hillary.

-Ted Cruz became wildly unpopular after Trump's Lyin' Ted attacks, and this effect never fully disappeared:
https://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/ted-cruz-favorable-rating

Bernie, meanwhile, was consistently popular between June and November.

Had Trump lost, Cruz would still have been viewed as sleaze, and Bernie would still be more popular than any Democrat.
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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2017, 02:26:50 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2017, 02:38:14 PM »



347 - 191

Not sure about NC, IA, OH, AZ, MT and AK, but they wouldn't have mattered anyway.

I'm surprised your map is so favorable to Sanders.

What's your reasoning for him doing so well?
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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2017, 02:38:42 PM »


-In what universe does Bernie lose Colorado, Virginia, or Nevada?
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« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2017, 02:40:49 PM »



347 - 191

Not sure about NC, IA, OH, AZ, MT and AK, but they wouldn't have mattered anyway.

I'm surprised your map is so favorable to Sanders.

What's your reasoning for him doing so well?

-1. There are zero HRC voters who wouldn't vote for Sanders outside Appalachia.

2. Sanders gets a bit of a WWC and college town boost relative to HRC.

3. Sanders always had a much higher favorability rating than HRC.
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« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2017, 02:45:31 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2017, 02:47:19 PM by Liberalrocks »




In a universe where socialist attacks take their toll on his image. He is swiftboated by them. Unless he picks Kaine and even then Virginia is still 50/50. I also dont see Latinos turning out quite as strongly for Sanders which would put Nevada and Colorado in toss up to possible Trump wins.
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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2017, 02:58:25 PM »




In a universe where socialist attacks take their toll on his image. He is swiftboated by them. Unless he picks Kaine and even then Virginia is still 50/50. I also dont see Latinos turning out quite as strongly for Sanders which would put Nevada and Colorado in toss up to possible Trump wins.

-Sanders was pretty much the perfect candidate for Colorado, man. Latinos tended to abandon Hillary late on due to Her email scandal. Sanders had no equivalent. And #NeverTrumpers would, if anything, be more likely to vote for Sanders than HRC. You're pretending Sanders had an email scandal or his favorability ratings would, for some reason that never came to pass, plummet to HRC's levels. I'm still befuddled at why anyone voted for HRC over Bernie.
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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2017, 03:08:45 PM »

I'm still befuddled at why anyone voted for HRC over Bernie.

Because she was "more electable."

What a joke...
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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2017, 03:15:45 PM »

I'm still befuddled at why anyone voted for HRC over Bernie.

Because she was "more electable."

What a joke...

-Agreed. I still couldn't see why anyone would view Crooked Hillary 2016 as more electable to anything than Crazy Bernie.
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« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2017, 01:31:56 AM »
« Edited: February 20, 2017, 01:39:21 AM by Beet »

After looking carefully at social media data from the NYT, I have a new conclusion:



Trump 298
Sanders 240

Which data?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/facebook-primary/

Pick only Trump and Sanders "share vs US". He's stronger than Hillary in MI & WI but not PA and weaker in NV.
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« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2017, 12:35:11 PM »



Trump wins popular vote as well.
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