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« on: February 12, 2016, 12:42:36 AM »

As Sanders keeps saying, he will

1. win

and

2. accomplish more progressive victories than Obama


because he has higher turnout than Obama.




This is not true, at least so far. 2016 Democratic turnout is BELOW 2008 Democratic turnout.

According to Bernie's own standards, he's going to do worse than Obama at getting things done.

What's his campaign rationale when he's failing his own standard?
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 12:44:48 AM »

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-02-11/bernie-sanders-political-revolution-is-off-to-a-slow-start

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/10/sorry-bernie-sanders-there-is-zero-evidence-of-your-political-revolution-yet/
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2016, 12:46:02 AM »

Bernie got way more votes in the NH primary than anyone else ever has.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2016, 12:46:36 AM »

Bernie got way more votes in the NH primary than anyone else ever has.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton received less than Donald Trump.  Sure, let's talk about voter turnout.  LOL
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 12:51:10 AM »

He might generate more enthusiasm than Clinton, is what I get from that.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 12:51:55 AM »

Bernie got way more votes in the NH primary than anyone else ever has.
Not because of voter turnout. It was a bigger margin (with a bigger population). But it was below 2008 turnout.

Sanders says he'll win because he's getting, or going to get, above 2008 turnout.
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 12:53:43 AM »

Bernie got way more votes in the NH primary than anyone else ever has.
Not because of voter turnout. It was a bigger margin (with a bigger population). But it was below 2008 turnout.

Sanders says he'll win because he's getting, or going to get, above 2008 turnout.

I'm not talking about margin or turnout, I'm talking about votes. No one ever got close to his number of votes.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2016, 12:57:20 AM »

I know.

But that's not relevant.

Sanders is talking about how he'll win and accomplish his agenda because his turnout's bigger than Obama's. After two primaries, both very well for him, that's just not true.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2016, 12:59:16 AM »

Breaking news: Politician turns out to be a politician. News at 11.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2016, 01:01:39 AM »

I know.

But that's not relevant.

Sanders is talking about how he'll win and accomplish his agenda because his turnout's bigger than Obama's. After two primaries, both very well for him, that's just not true.

His turnout is higher than anyone elses. Obama only got 37% in NH 2008, so he wasn't responsible for much of that record high turnout. The 2016 NH has higher Democratic turnout than any other year besides 2008, and 60% of that is a lot more than 37% (or Hillary's 40%) of 2008's turnout.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2016, 01:23:51 AM »

That's not Bernie's argument, though.

And New Hampshire will probably be his 2nd-best state, behind only Vermont.

If he can't beat 2008 turnout for Democrats in NH, where can he, besides maybe his homestate?
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2016, 02:11:51 AM »

Apparently reality has a well-known anti-Sanders bias.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2016, 02:17:10 AM »

I think this is a very biased political & unethical statement.

He has got 60% of the votes in NH & helped generate the highest turnout of any year bar 2008 & not hugely far off either.
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