What about the jobs?

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I have a feeling that to most Americans, busy in their jobs and with their families, the Russia thing is not going to be all that important.  What these Americans are most concerned with is just getting by, continuing their schooling, making ends meet and their children are most important.  These families may have voted for Trump or Clinton, but were enamored with neither one.  This silent majority doesn't have the time to follow the Russia thing.

I really think a lot of men out there - of different backgrounds - were feeling that Trump could really do a lot to create jobs and opportunities for them.  They did not trust or like Hillary and so they naturally went with the businessman and I think there was the feeling that after eight years of Barack Obama, they should give a Republican a try.

The real problem for the Republicans I don't believe is Russia or Michael Flynn or James Comey.  It's the complete dropping of jobs and infrastructure by Trump.  He's said very little about bread and butter issues and mainly has focused on immigration, foreign affairs, and repealing the ACA.

And I think the biggest problem for Democrats is to think that people care as much about the scandals in Washington as the economic anxieties back home in a lot of these Midwest and Rust Belt states.

A construction worker living in Macomb County is following the news, but is it resonating the way that progressives and the media are hoping it does, or is he shrugging off the Russia scandals as overblown or not as important as NAFTA or outsourcing of jobs?

[Yank2133]

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

[Hermit For Peace]

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

A thought comes to mind that these people you are referring to just might expect to be screwed, they're used to it, and Trump is delivering!

[Yank2133]

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

A thought comes to mind that these people you are referring to just might expect to be screwed, they're used to it, and Trump is delivering!

I don't think they expected it, but there is alot of tribalism with Trump's base. As long as he does stuff to piss off liberals and the "establishment", they will support. Even if this Russia thing sinks him, he will still hold his 35%.

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

A thought comes to mind that these people you are referring to just might expect to be screwed, they're used to it, and Trump is delivering!

I don't think they expected it, but there is alot of tribalism with Trump's base. As long as he does stuff to piss off liberals and the "establishment", they will support. Even if this Russia thing sinks him, he will still hold his 35%.

Deplorables.

[Technocracy Timmy]

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

He's already dropped 8 points in one week alone among GOP voters. Also Obama-Trump voters accounted for 70% of the reason why Hillary didn't achieve Obama's 2012 vote total. Recent pew numbers show that 23% of young republicans have defected to the Democrats in the last 17 months.

Given that Trump won a paltry 46% of the popular vote, I'm pretty sure Democrats can, at the very least win over those Obama-Trump voters plus a sliver more of Republican voters going into 2020 given that these scandals alone are already hurting him.

How many more will defect when there's a recession? A foreign policy blunder?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

Russia and the other failures may end up hurting him indirectly, by creating the perception that Trump (and by association his supporters) are losing. Or to put it another way:

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Put simply .... they got conned.

[Yank2133]

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

He's already dropped 8 points in one week alone among GOP voters. Also Obama-Trump voters accounted for 70% of the reason why Hillary didn't achieve Obama's 2012 vote total. Recent pew numbers show that 23% of young republicans have defected to the Democrats in the last 17 months.

Given that Trump won a poultry 46% of the popular vote, I'm pretty sure Democrats can, at the very least win over those Obama-Trump voters plus a sliver more of Republican voters going into 2020 given that these scandals alone are already hurting him.

How many more will defect when there's a recession? A foreign policy blunder?

True, but I am still wary about any polls that shows Trump losing GOP support. I mean he lost alot of GOP support after the Access Hollywood video and yet they came back.

The Obama-Trump voters is something to watch out for, but I am not sure they are relevant in 2018 since the places Democrats are going to target are Clinton won GOP districts.

[Technocracy Timmy]

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

He's already dropped 8 points in one week alone among GOP voters. Also Obama-Trump voters accounted for 70% of the reason why Hillary didn't achieve Obama's 2012 vote total. Recent pew numbers show that 23% of young republicans have defected to the Democrats in the last 17 months.

Given that Trump won a poultry 46% of the popular vote, I'm pretty sure Democrats can, at the very least win over those Obama-Trump voters plus a sliver more of Republican voters going into 2020 given that these scandals alone are already hurting him.

How many more will defect when there's a recession? A foreign policy blunder?

True, but I am still wary about any polls that shows Trump losing GOP support. I mean he lost alot of GOP support after the Access Hollywood video and yet they came back.

The Obama-Trump voters is something to watch out for, but I am not sure they are relevant in 2018 since the places Democrats are going to target are Clinton won GOP districts.

That's their strategy? I don't think that's a good idea, and I'm not sure they're going that route.

I live in a Clinton-GOP district (CA-48) and I haven't seen any movement on the ground to flip this district. Congressman Rohrabacher seems like the perfect target to given his past involvement with the Russians. Either way, unless he's embroiled in a Trump style Russian scandal, he's winning reelection here. The college educated upper income white republicans here are notoriously partisan.

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What about them?

[Yank2133]

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

He's already dropped 8 points in one week alone among GOP voters. Also Obama-Trump voters accounted for 70% of the reason why Hillary didn't achieve Obama's 2012 vote total. Recent pew numbers show that 23% of young republicans have defected to the Democrats in the last 17 months.

Given that Trump won a poultry 46% of the popular vote, I'm pretty sure Democrats can, at the very least win over those Obama-Trump voters plus a sliver more of Republican voters going into 2020 given that these scandals alone are already hurting him.

How many more will defect when there's a recession? A foreign policy blunder?

True, but I am still wary about any polls that shows Trump losing GOP support. I mean he lost alot of GOP support after the Access Hollywood video and yet they came back.

The Obama-Trump voters is something to watch out for, but I am not sure they are relevant in 2018 since the places Democrats are going to target are Clinton won GOP districts.

That's their strategy? I don't think that's a good idea, and I'm not sure they're going that route.

I live in a Clinton-GOP district (CA-48) and I haven't seen any movement on the ground to flip this district. Congressman Rohrabacher seems like the perfect target to given his past involvement with the Russians. Either way, unless he's embroiled in a Trump style Russian scandal, he's winning reelection here. The college educated upper income white republicans here are notoriously partisan.

It is their only strategy since those are the most vulnerable seats available.

[Technocracy Timmy]

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This isn't a problem for them because Trump's base doesn't really care about economics, jobs etc.. He is openly screwing them and yet they still support him and no tour by Democrats in Trump country and talking about these issues will change that.

He's already dropped 8 points in one week alone among GOP voters. Also Obama-Trump voters accounted for 70% of the reason why Hillary didn't achieve Obama's 2012 vote total. Recent pew numbers show that 23% of young republicans have defected to the Democrats in the last 17 months.

Given that Trump won a poultry 46% of the popular vote, I'm pretty sure Democrats can, at the very least win over those Obama-Trump voters plus a sliver more of Republican voters going into 2020 given that these scandals alone are already hurting him.

How many more will defect when there's a recession? A foreign policy blunder?

True, but I am still wary about any polls that shows Trump losing GOP support. I mean he lost alot of GOP support after the Access Hollywood video and yet they came back.

The Obama-Trump voters is something to watch out for, but I am not sure they are relevant in 2018 since the places Democrats are going to target are Clinton won GOP districts.

That's their strategy? I don't think that's a good idea, and I'm not sure they're going that route.

I live in a Clinton-GOP district (CA-48) and I haven't seen any movement on the ground to flip this district. Congressman Rohrabacher seems like the perfect target to given his past involvement with the Russians. Either way, unless he's embroiled in a Trump style Russian scandal, he's winning reelection here. The college educated upper income white republicans here are notoriously partisan.

It is their only strategy since those are the most vulnerable seats available.

In the short run? Probably true.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Jobs will definately come, in 2018, just in time for the 2018 Democratic controlled House when Nancy Pelosi keeps Obamacare, and a proper check on the Trump administration. And 2020 will be about Immigration and Minimum wage.