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« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2007, 12:45:02 AM »

If McInnis wanted to run, he would've in 2004.
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« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2007, 12:45:53 AM »

If McInnis wanted to run, he would've in 2004.

He has said that he is interested in 2006. He has nothing else to do now.
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« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2007, 03:32:39 AM »

Schaffer deserves it but won't get it.
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« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2007, 10:56:42 AM »

I keep emphasising that McInnis is a far better than Schaffer but anyhow there is always Gale Ann Norton. 
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« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2007, 02:02:05 PM »

The Tancredo:Brown comparison is pretty ridiculous since Brown's pet issue, fighting unfair free trade deals and preserving jobs at home, is exactly the type of thing that plays very well in Ohio. The same is not true of Tancredo's, even if Coloradans don't like illegal immigration, it's unlikely the majority share his insane views (and if you think they do, give my congratulations to Rep. Randy Graf). Brown also isn't anywhere near as gaffe-prone (did he ever compare a major US city to a third world country?) and benefited greatly from the toxic political climate for Republicans, doubled in Ohio thanks to Bob Taft.

Oh yeah, you can bet with Tancredo as the nominee Hispanic turnout isn't going to be low, and we all know how they're going to be voting.

I could agree w/ some of you points, but fundamentally there is a great ideological similarity between the two. One is against movement of labor, another is against movement of capital, and in the end both amount to the same: "let the poor of this world starve and make the average American earn less and pay more for necessities, as long as I can go accross as a populilst sort of a chap".

Still, Tancredo does already have quite a reputation, which Brown didn't.
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« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2007, 02:05:39 PM »

The Tancredo:Brown comparison is pretty ridiculous since Brown's pet issue, fighting unfair free trade deals and preserving jobs at home, is exactly the type of thing that plays very well in Ohio. The same is not true of Tancredo's, even if Coloradans don't like illegal immigration, it's unlikely the majority share his insane views (and if you think they do, give my congratulations to Rep. Randy Graf). Brown also isn't anywhere near as gaffe-prone (did he ever compare a major US city to a third world country?) and benefited greatly from the toxic political climate for Republicans, doubled in Ohio thanks to Bob Taft.

Oh yeah, you can bet with Tancredo as the nominee Hispanic turnout isn't going to be low, and we all know how they're going to be voting.

You seem to be confused as many Hispanics share Tancredo's view on immigartion, especially those who came here legally and feel cheated

Tell this to the - much more moderate - former Rep. Bonilla Smiley. There are always some odd-balls. A vast majority of Hispanics (including a vast majority of those "who came legally") would be more offended by a suggestion tehy could vote for Tancredo than by a suggestion they could vote for Hitler.
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« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2007, 07:01:34 PM »

Well the Democrats can collectively wipe their foreheads and give a sigh of relief: John Elway has ruled out a bid for this seat.

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« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2007, 07:55:44 PM »

The Tancredo:Brown comparison is pretty ridiculous since Brown's pet issue, fighting unfair free trade deals and preserving jobs at home, is exactly the type of thing that plays very well in Ohio. The same is not true of Tancredo's, even if Coloradans don't like illegal immigration, it's unlikely the majority share his insane views (and if you think they do, give my congratulations to Rep. Randy Graf). Brown also isn't anywhere near as gaffe-prone (did he ever compare a major US city to a third world country?) and benefited greatly from the toxic political climate for Republicans, doubled in Ohio thanks to Bob Taft.

Oh yeah, you can bet with Tancredo as the nominee Hispanic turnout isn't going to be low, and we all know how they're going to be voting.

I could agree w/ some of you points, but fundamentally there is a great ideological similarity between the two. One is against movement of labor, another is against movement of capital, and in the end both amount to the same: "let the poor of this world starve and make the average American earn less and pay more for necessities, as long as I can go accross as a populilst sort of a chap".

Still, Tancredo does already have quite a reputation, which Brown didn't.


If by that you mean that Brown had a positive reputation in Ohio as a strong anti-free trade advocate/pro-fair trade advocate, and that Tancredo has a moslty negative reputation across the entire country as the man who wants to build an electrified fence along the U.S.-Mexico border and treat Mexicans live livestock, and throw the illegals already here over said fence with a catapult, then you are correct.
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