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« Reply #225 on: May 22, 2024, 11:45:36 AM »
« edited: May 22, 2024, 11:58:37 AM by Arizona Iced Tea »

This election means close to nothing but if Barrow pulled off the win you wouldn't hear the end of it on here and how Trump is doomed in Georgia.


Anyway Barrow overperformed literally everywhere statewide except the black belt and inner ring Atlanta either a large amount of black voters stayed home or voted Pinson.
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« Reply #226 on: May 22, 2024, 12:22:30 PM »

Take from one of the state's best political reporters:


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« Reply #227 on: May 22, 2024, 12:26:02 PM »

The Experts are here to tell you this doesn’t mean anything.
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« Reply #228 on: May 22, 2024, 12:54:12 PM »

The Experts are here to tell you this doesn’t mean anything.

Yes.  Yes, we are.
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« Reply #229 on: May 22, 2024, 01:27:32 PM »

I'll be called a hack but Pinson only winning by 10 is a good result IMO for Barrow/Dems.

Nothing was spent on this race - Barrow barely spent over $1M. People say they got mailers for Pinson but nothing from Barrow. Yes, Barrow pushed abortion rights, but it seems that only the most tuned in folks actually saw that. Almost everyone else was either swayed by name rec (Barrows old district) or incumbency on the ballot, with an incumbent who doesn't seem to have any scandals.

The fact that Barrow was able to still get 45% of the vote despite all of that actually tells me that his message was able to break through to some folks. I imagine 80% of voters did not know the details of this race or who was who, and just went with incumbent. But the fact that Barrow still got through to 45% of voters while spending $1M against a normal incumbent in a nonpartisan race is not bad at all imo.


You should sell timeshares

I mean, just look at the results. The Atlanta Metro area pretty much shows that most of those voters and in other areas really had no idea about this race at all. They likely just saw 'incumbent' and ticked the box.


Black voters in Atlanta metro saw that Barrow was aligned with the democrat party and decided not to vote for him

You can just make up anything you want to fit your narrative

Could some black voters who did not pay attention think Pinson was African-American? The last name seems common among them.
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« Reply #230 on: May 22, 2024, 01:39:45 PM »
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I'll be called a hack but Pinson only winning by 10 is a good result IMO for Barrow/Dems.

Nothing was spent on this race - Barrow barely spent over $1M. People say they got mailers for Pinson but nothing from Barrow. Yes, Barrow pushed abortion rights, but it seems that only the most tuned in folks actually saw that. Almost everyone else was either swayed by name rec (Barrows old district) or incumbency on the ballot, with an incumbent who doesn't seem to have any scandals.

The fact that Barrow was able to still get 45% of the vote despite all of that actually tells me that his message was able to break through to some folks. I imagine 80% of voters did not know the details of this race or who was who, and just went with incumbent. But the fact that Barrow still got through to 45% of voters while spending $1M against a normal incumbent in a nonpartisan race is not bad at all imo.

yes you are a hack and I can clearly smell your fear for November. how can you call it a good result for a state that is clearly trending left and losing it by 10?

anyway, the real reason probably why Barrow lost is that he is a one trick pony, just like Mark Udall in 2014 CO-Sen.
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« Reply #231 on: May 22, 2024, 02:08:14 PM »

Biden will narrowly win AZ/NV/MI/WI/PA/VA

will be blown out in the south.

We all should know what that means.

Trump is winning the popular vote.
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« Reply #232 on: May 22, 2024, 02:33:29 PM »

I'll be called a hack but Pinson only winning by 10 is a good result IMO for Barrow/Dems.

Nothing was spent on this race - Barrow barely spent over $1M. People say they got mailers for Pinson but nothing from Barrow. Yes, Barrow pushed abortion rights, but it seems that only the most tuned in folks actually saw that. Almost everyone else was either swayed by name rec (Barrows old district) or incumbency on the ballot, with an incumbent who doesn't seem to have any scandals.

The fact that Barrow was able to still get 45% of the vote despite all of that actually tells me that his message was able to break through to some folks. I imagine 80% of voters did not know the details of this race or who was who, and just went with incumbent. But the fact that Barrow still got through to 45% of voters while spending $1M against a normal incumbent in a nonpartisan race is not bad at all imo.

yes you are a hack and I can clearly smell your fear for November. how can you call it a good result for a state that is clearly trending left and losing it by 10?

anyway, the real reason probably why Barrow lost is that he is a one trick pony, just like Mark Udall in 2014 CO-Sen.

The frustrating thing about this race is there is a lot of people like this that are acting very delusional about this race, as if there was a D and R next to these peoples names. In a sleepy judicial race that had $3 million spent on it *statewide*, do you honestly believe even half the voters even knew who either of these people are and which side they were aligned with?
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« Reply #233 on: May 22, 2024, 02:34:14 PM »

This election means close to nothing but if Barrow pulled off the win you wouldn't hear the end of it on here and how Trump is doomed in Georgia.


Anyway Barrow overperformed literally everywhere statewide except the black belt and inner ring Atlanta either a large amount of black voters stayed home or voted Pinson.

If anything this map shows what happens when people randomly pick names. Things even out all across the board.
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« Reply #234 on: May 22, 2024, 03:23:26 PM »

Case in point: this was a way better performance compared to a sleepy election in 2022 of the same - where the "D" got blown out by nearly 40%

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« Reply #235 on: May 22, 2024, 03:49:09 PM »

Biden will narrowly win AZ/NV/MI/WI/PA/VA

will be blown out in the south.

We all should know what that means.

Trump is winning the popular vote.

No he won't.
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« Reply #236 on: May 22, 2024, 05:18:18 PM »

Case in point: this was a way better performance compared to a sleepy election in 2022 of the same - where the "D" got blown out by nearly 40%


If Trump somehow won New York, you would spin as terrible for the GOP long term as New York state is projected to lose electoral votes next census
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« Reply #237 on: May 22, 2024, 05:51:14 PM »

This almost looks like an early 2000s election in GA. Fulton is blue but not as blue as today, the rurals are red, but not as red as today, while the key is the ATL suburbs, which are red, unlike today. End result is a low double-digit victory for the GOP.

Yes it’s truly amazing .


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« Reply #238 on: May 22, 2024, 07:47:21 PM »

There was also a lower court race with no incumbent, but the map looked much more normal.
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« Reply #239 on: May 23, 2024, 06:01:33 AM »

Lol at the copium by my fellow red avatars! It's plainly obvious that Georgia is flipping in any election where Biden is not winning comfortably folks. Come on
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« Reply #240 on: May 23, 2024, 07:41:56 AM »

There was also a lower court race with no incumbent, but the map looked much more normal.


Right, because you a) didn't have an incumbent and b) didnt have Barrow's strength in his old district, which caused weird rural swings
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« Reply #241 on: May 23, 2024, 07:44:22 PM »

I may have missed it (sorry, I did not read all 10 pages of this thread) but nobody is mentioning the biggest factor in the election, that Pinson was clearly labeled as the incumbent on the ballot. We have the same thing for judicial elections here in Minnesota and incumbents never lose. If they vote in judicial elections at all low information voters are highly likely to just vote for the incumbent. This is why the map is so out of whack from what you would expect in a traditional partisan election.
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« Reply #242 on: May 23, 2024, 07:50:59 PM »

I may have missed it (sorry, I did not read all 10 pages of this thread) but nobody is mentioning the biggest factor in the election, that Pinson was clearly labeled as the incumbent on the ballot. We have the same thing for judicial elections here in Minnesota and incumbents never lose. If they vote in judicial elections at all low information voters are highly likely to just vote for the incumbent. This is why the map is so out of whack from what you would expect in a traditional partisan election.

A few of us did note it, but of course the blue avatars wanted to try and make it seem like the sky was falling because Barrow lost by 10 against a nonpartisan incumbent while spending basically nothing. But that would require actual critical analysis, which some are unable to do here.
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« Reply #243 on: May 23, 2024, 11:17:54 PM »

This election doesn't mean anything, but neither do all the special elections.
Either both matter or neither do, anything otherwise is hypocritical
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« Reply #244 on: May 24, 2024, 05:45:37 AM »

Barrow ran for secretary of state in 2018 and was listed as a democrat. The excuses are starting to really drive me crazy folks
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« Reply #245 on: May 24, 2024, 08:19:45 AM »

Barrow ran for secretary of state in 2018 and was listed as a democrat. The excuses are starting to really drive me crazy folks

People on this board need to touch grass sometimes. You think even half of Georgia remembers a single low-profile politician and the party they ran with 6 years ago? Some people here cannot put themselves in the brain of an average voter and it really shows.
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« Reply #246 on: May 24, 2024, 08:20:16 AM »

This election doesn't mean anything, but neither do all the special elections.
Either both matter or neither do, anything otherwise is hypocritical

I mean, they are pretty different. Special elections have D/R next to their names. This didn't. That's a huge difference. And this wasn't like WI where it was very clear to voters who was with what party.
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« Reply #247 on: May 24, 2024, 01:10:22 PM »

Barrow ran for secretary of state in 2018 and was listed as a democrat. The excuses are starting to really drive me crazy folks
Incumbent judges almost never lose elections.
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« Reply #248 on: May 24, 2024, 01:18:19 PM »

Barrow ran for secretary of state in 2018 and was listed as a democrat. The excuses are starting to really drive me crazy folks
How many people remember a losing downballot candidate from 6 years ago?

Even I don't recall and couldn't tell you without looking it up who the Republican nominee for Minnesota Secretary of State was in 2018. Hell I don't even remember off hand the name of the 2022 candidate, only that she was a loony election denier.
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