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« on: September 05, 2008, 11:51:11 PM »

Rasmussen has been silent since August 21st with Texas.

Mason-Dixon did Florida on August 26th.

Otherwise, we've got nothing but University polls, TV network polls, and the evil Other Sources.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2008, 11:54:51 PM »

Real polling firms do not do state polls during or near conventions.

Maybe we'll get some next week.

M-D has been eerily silent this whole season.  I heard Obama was using 5-6 different polling firms, could they be doing internals for a campaign?
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2008, 11:56:28 PM »

They will wake up in the coming week ... Wink
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 03:21:30 AM »
« Edited: September 06, 2008, 05:13:51 AM by cp »

Well I'm a polling firm, yes a real polling firm,
All you other polling firms are just little worms,
So won't a real polling firm please, do a poll?
please do a poll
please do a poll

Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 12:58:42 PM »

I think that part of being a real pollster is that you don't do polls during party conventions.  Anyone who polls during a convention is pretty much by definition a junk pollster.
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 01:34:10 PM »

I think that part of being a real pollster is that you don't do polls during party conventions.  Anyone who polls during a convention is pretty much by definition a junk pollster.

Basically. That was why I figured state polls had fallen to near-zero. Look for Rasmussen to start having state polls again around Thursday or so is my guess.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2008, 06:38:00 PM »

I think that part of being a real pollster is that you don't do polls during party conventions.  Anyone who polls during a convention is pretty much by definition a junk pollster.

You could just as well make the argument that a real pollster does not do any polls before conventions have happened if it is believed they affect things so much.
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2008, 09:35:20 PM »

I just took a Zogby interactive poll...does that count?
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2008, 09:45:58 PM »

What about West Virginia.  Why no polls?  I visited there recently and saw Obama signs and bumper stickers all over.  Could this state be a surprise in November because it was assumed that the white poor folks would never vote for a black guy and ignored it.

Trust me, Obama has done internal polling of West Virginia.  If he thought he could make it competitive, he would advertise and organize there.  Obama has ignored West Virginia completely (and barely visited there during the primaries).

So, no.
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2008, 09:57:35 PM »

State polls will be meaningless until late next week and probably not until the week after.  Let the conventions settle into the past and then see where they stand.

Polls in Colorado, Ohio, Nevada, NH, and maybe Va and Michigan are all that matter anyway.  Why waste time polling Indiana, Georgia, Minn, Washington.  None of those states are going to flip, but we'll get a ton of polls from those states anyway.

The polls from NY, California, Texas and Alabama are the ones that drive me crazy.  Why bother?  Personally, I'm on pins and needles awaiting the next Sooner Poll.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008, 10:49:55 PM »

I've been reading that Rasmussen is a right-wing pollster now on this forum. Which pollster qualifies as a REAL polling firm? Some posters said ABC News suffices.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2008, 10:53:46 PM »

What about West Virginia.  Why no polls?  I visited there recently and saw Obama signs and bumper stickers all over.  Could this state be a surprise in November because it was assumed that the white poor folks would never vote for a black guy and ignored it.

West Virginia wasn't heavily polled during the primary season, either - 7 Democratic primary polls the whole primary season and only 4 come primary time.   It's one of those smaller states that we rarely see much polling for (like most of the 3 EV states in the Mountain West and Dakotas).

I seriously doubt Obama's going to win West Virginia.  He got crushed in the primary, and outside of Monongalia County (Morgantown) and perhaps the exurban DC panhandle counties (Berkeley/Jefferson), your typical West Virginia voter doesn't fit your typical Obama voter stereotype (college students, upper middle class, white collar whites and African Americans).
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