Opinion of shouting down?

[VBM]

Horrible practice, and it often backfires by making the ones shouting down look like absolute clowns. Let the speaker’s voice be heard, and try to convince the audience that the speaker is wrong by presenting your own valid arguments instead of childishly trying to drown out the voice of someone you don’t like.

[dead0man]

if you vote "freedom practice" you are ok with MAGAs going to BLM rallies with bullhorns just to shout "White Lives Matter" over and over again.

[DaleCooper]

if you vote "freedom practice" you are ok with MAGAs going to BLM rallies with bullhorns just to shout "White Lives Matter" over and over again.

When the Nazis were still a fringe movement, this was one of their favorite tactics. They'd go to events or theaters that they deemed "degenerate" or anti-German in some way and they'd scream and disrupt the event so no one else could enjoy it.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It obviously depends on the context. I really don't understand this modern tendency to have very strong a-priori stances on what forms of protest are good or bad. Obviously physical violence is beyond the pale in the context of a functioning democracy, but beyond that, I don't know why we should categorically endorse or condemn a particular form of political advocacy without considering the wheres, whens, hows and whys of it.

[VBM]

It obviously depends on the context. I really don't understand this modern tendency to have very strong a-priori stances on what forms of protest are good or bad. Obviously physical violence is beyond the pale in the context of a functioning democracy, but beyond that, I don't know why we should categorically endorse or condemn a particular form of political advocacy without considering the wheres, whens, hows and whys of it.

Can you list a few examples of times where it would be good? Even if it’s a Neo-Nazi speaker, shouting down is still a bad idea simply because you end up making your side look immature, even if it is morally acceptable

[Antonio the Sixth]

It obviously depends on the context. I really don't understand this modern tendency to have very strong a-priori stances on what forms of protest are good or bad. Obviously physical violence is beyond the pale in the context of a functioning democracy, but beyond that, I don't know why we should categorically endorse or condemn a particular form of political advocacy without considering the wheres, whens, hows and whys of it.

Can you list a few examples of times where it would be good? Even if it’s a Neo-Nazi speaker, shouting down is still a bad idea simply because you end up making your side look immature, even if it is morally acceptable

How it "makes you look" is also a matter of context, because not all societies have the same blind, agnostic tolerance to obviously repugnant ideas as 2020s America does. In most of the West from 1945 to 2000 or so, if a group of neonazis attempted to hold a rally and protesters went down to heckle them, the vast majority of regular people would have happily cheered on the hecklers. Because there was a widespread understanding that nazism is evil and must not be tolerated. Alas, we don't live in those simpler times anymore, but the point stands.

[John Dule]

It obviously depends on the context. I really don't understand this modern tendency to have very strong a-priori stances on what forms of protest are good or bad. Obviously physical violence is beyond the pale in the context of a functioning democracy, but beyond that, I don't know why we should categorically endorse or condemn a particular form of political advocacy without considering the wheres, whens, hows and whys of it.

I agree when it comes to this particular form of protest, but I think there are definitely other forms of protest that we can categorically dismiss as stupid. Blocking traffic, for example, is extremely selfish and dangerous-- plus it has the added bonus of p*ssing off everyone you're trying to win over.

[HillGoose]

undignified

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Horrible Tactic in a majority of instances.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It obviously depends on the context. I really don't understand this modern tendency to have very strong a-priori stances on what forms of protest are good or bad. Obviously physical violence is beyond the pale in the context of a functioning democracy, but beyond that, I don't know why we should categorically endorse or condemn a particular form of political advocacy without considering the wheres, whens, hows and whys of it.

I agree when it comes to this particular form of protest, but I think there are definitely other forms of protest that we can categorically dismiss as stupid. Blocking traffic, for example, is extremely selfish and dangerous-- plus it has the added bonus of p*ssing off everyone you're trying to win over.

Blocking traffic can be an extremely effective tactic. There's a reason why every European government is deadly afraid of taxis.