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« on: July 02, 2013, 10:37:14 AM »

Mississippi, but only because the feds will force them.
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2013, 10:41:15 AM »

Mississippi, but only because the feds will force them.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2013, 11:00:08 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2013, 01:15:06 PM »

Again, once blacks support gay marriage near-universally,  which is likely as the issue becomes a non-negotiable Democratic policy plank, Mississippi will pass it easily.  If there is no Supreme Court decision,  Mississippi won't be one of the last 10 states to legalize.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2013, 02:17:13 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2013, 02:53:49 PM »

Mississippi, but only because the feds will force them.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 04:30:34 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 05:16:22 PM »

Again, once blacks support gay marriage near-universally,  which is likely as the issue becomes a non-negotiable Democratic policy plank, Mississippi will pass it easily.  If there is no Supreme Court decision,  Mississippi won't be one of the last 10 states to legalize.

You have a very naive view as to how much influence political leaders have over the issue positions of individual voters.  Also, why in the hell would the Mississippi GOP put the issue before the voters?  Unless Mississippi changes considerably politically, this is an issue that would require the support of a majority of Mississippi Republicans to change the law, not a majority of Mississippians.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 09:08:56 PM »

Again, once blacks support gay marriage near-universally,  which is likely as the issue becomes a non-negotiable Democratic policy plank, Mississippi will pass it easily.  If there is no Supreme Court decision,  Mississippi won't be one of the last 10 states to legalize.

You have a very naive view as to how much influence political leaders have over the issue positions of individual voters.  Also, why in the hell would the Mississippi GOP put the issue before the voters?  Unless Mississippi changes considerably politically, this is an issue that would require the support of a majority of Mississippi Republicans to change the law, not a majority of Mississippians.

It can get on the ballot with enough signatures.  That's how that personhood nonsense got on the ballot -- the legislature didn't put it on there.
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2013, 09:21:31 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 01:07:47 AM »

Again, once blacks support gay marriage near-universally,  which is likely as the issue becomes a non-negotiable Democratic policy plank, Mississippi will pass it easily.  If there is no Supreme Court decision,  Mississippi won't be one of the last 10 states to legalize.

You have a very naive view as to how much influence political leaders have over the issue positions of individual voters.  Also, why in the hell would the Mississippi GOP put the issue before the voters?  Unless Mississippi changes considerably politically, this is an issue that would require the support of a majority of Mississippi Republicans to change the law, not a majority of Mississippians.

It can get on the ballot with enough signatures.  That's how that personhood nonsense got on the ballot -- the legislature didn't put it on there.

How many signatures do you expect to get to repeal a law that the courts have already declared null and void?  I fully expect that by the 2016 elections if gay marriage is not already legal in all 50 states, the case that will make it so will be on the Supreme Court calendar.  There's no way Mississippi will be pro-SSM by then.
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2013, 09:26:45 PM »

Again, once blacks support gay marriage near-universally,  which is likely as the issue becomes a non-negotiable Democratic policy plank, Mississippi will pass it easily.  If there is no Supreme Court decision,  Mississippi won't be one of the last 10 states to legalize.

You have a very naive view as to how much influence political leaders have over the issue positions of individual voters.  Also, why in the hell would the Mississippi GOP put the issue before the voters?  Unless Mississippi changes considerably politically, this is an issue that would require the support of a majority of Mississippi Republicans to change the law, not a majority of Mississippians.

It can get on the ballot with enough signatures.  That's how that personhood nonsense got on the ballot -- the legislature didn't put it on there.

How many signatures do you expect to get to repeal a law that the courts have already declared null and void?  I fully expect that by the 2016 elections if gay marriage is not already legal in all 50 states, the case that will make it so will be on the Supreme Court calendar.  There's no way Mississippi will be pro-SSM by then.

Well, yeah.  My point that Mississippi would not be among the last 10 states was contingent on the Supreme Court never legalizing it nationwide.
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2013, 10:56:41 PM »

The feds should have no say in gay marriage one way or the other.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2013, 05:34:41 PM »

Again, once blacks support gay marriage near-universally,  which is likely as the issue becomes a non-negotiable Democratic policy plank, Mississippi will pass it easily.  If there is no Supreme Court decision,  Mississippi won't be one of the last 10 states to legalize.

What do you think would be the last few states to legalize?
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2013, 06:14:38 PM »

Again, once blacks support gay marriage near-universally,  which is likely as the issue becomes a non-negotiable Democratic policy plank, Mississippi will pass it easily.  If there is no Supreme Court decision,  Mississippi won't be one of the last 10 states to legalize.

What do you think would be the last few states to legalize?

Poor, very religious states that aren't almost 40% black.  West Virginia, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Kansas, Utah, Idaho.  Remember, Mississippi was the 17th most Republican state this last election, yet people always act like it's the 1st or 2nd most...
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2013, 09:16:35 AM »

Again, once blacks support gay marriage near-universally,  which is likely as the issue becomes a non-negotiable Democratic policy plank, Mississippi will pass it easily.  If there is no Supreme Court decision,  Mississippi won't be one of the last 10 states to legalize.

What do you think would be the last few states to legalize?

Poor, very religious states that aren't almost 40% black.  West Virginia, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Kansas, Utah, Idaho.  Remember, Mississippi was the 17th most Republican state this last election, yet people always act like it's the 1st or 2nd most...

Yeah, I know it bothers me that people think Mississippi will vote "overwhelmingly" for the republican when really people have to remember that it's not that republican it's just a very inflexible state part of the deep south. Alabama on the other hand is much more republican. If I would have to take a guess of which state would legalize gay marriage last, probably Oklahoma.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2013, 09:25:01 AM »
« Edited: July 12, 2013, 09:29:24 AM by traininthedistance »

Again, once blacks support gay marriage near-universally,  which is likely as the issue becomes a non-negotiable Democratic policy plank, Mississippi will pass it easily.  If there is no Supreme Court decision,  Mississippi won't be one of the last 10 states to legalize.

What do you think would be the last few states to legalize?

Poor, very religious states that aren't almost 40% black.  West Virginia, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Kansas, Utah, Idaho.  Remember, Mississippi was the 17th most Republican state this last election, yet people always act like it's the 1st or 2nd most...

Utah is actually pretty wealthy and very well educated- it has the 14th highest median household income.  It's only lower per capita because there are so many kids.

Oklahoma seems like the best bet for last holdout.
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2013, 09:28:42 AM »

Belarus, because it's in Europe, after all.
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