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« on: May 20, 2013, 12:00:32 PM »

Trying something different (for me at least) and giving shortlists for the VP candidates.

Booker's Shortlist is Florida Senator Bill Nelson, Congressman from CA- 34 Xavier Becerra, Congresswoman from HI-2 Tulsi Gabbard, Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren and Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu.

Haley's Shortlist is Former AZ senator John Kyl, Congressman (and former VP nominee) From WI-1 Paul Ryan, Utah Senator Mike Lee, Nevada Governor Bryan Sandoval and Ohio Senator Rob Portman.

 
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2013, 12:09:23 PM »

I don't have a map yet, but from your shortlists, I think the best tickets would be Booker/Nelson and Haley/Portman. Nelson provides decades of experience to the rising star in Booker, along with geographic and racial balance. Portman provides Haley with geographic, racial, gender, and ideological balance. Hopefully the Portman pick wouldn't upset the base due to his very moderate stances and open support for gay marriage. Perhaps if Haley picked Portman, Booker could pick Landrieu in hopes that they could reel in quite a few conservatives. I'm not sure how helpful the picks of Becerra/Gabbard/Warren/Kyl/Ryan/Lee/Sandoval would be for the respective tickets.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 12:12:31 PM »

Haley's approvals in SC are in the low 40s at best.  fantasies are cool though.
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 12:16:20 PM »


Booker/Nelson: 329 EV
Haley/Portman: 209 EV


Booker/Landrieu: 330 EV
Haley/Portman: 208 EV
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 01:39:00 PM »

Interesting matchup.

Haley has been rather unpopular in South Carolina, which suggests she's a weaker candidate, although it's also possible that some of it stems from bigotry and a toxic political culture. She may play better on a national stage.

Booker would get a lot of younger voters, and he would presumably keep high margins of African-American voters, although Haley would be more of a milestone.

I suspect Booker's a better candidate, but this would likely be a Republican leaning cycle.

As for running mates, Nelson's old but he could be Booker's Biden, with the added bonus of making a very important state more favorable. Becerra could help with Hispanic turnout. Tulsi Gabbard would be a disaster, due to her lack of experience and religion. Elizabeth Warren is another Northeastern liberal, so she seems like a poor fit. If Landrieu can win reelection, she would be a strong fit, with a combination of experience and appeal to female voters.

Jon Kyl would be Haley's Biden, but he may be too old and divisive. Paul Ryan handled himself well as a national candidate, and can help in the midwest. Portman has similar strengths. He isn't as charismatic, but that's less important for a Haley than it is for a Romney. Sandoval is Pro-Choice, so that could alienate certain voters. Mike Lee may not be a team player, although a young conservative legislator isn't a bad choice for the ticket.

It it's Booker/ Landieu VS Haley/ Lee, I could sort the states in the following categories...

Safe Democratic...
California, Delaware, DC, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, Vermont

Likely Democratic...
Illinois, Maine, Oregon, Washington

Leaning Democratic...
Michigan, Minnesota, New Mexico, Nevada,

Toss-Up (Democratic Lean)....
Colorado, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,

Toss-Up (Republican Lean)....
Virginia, Ohio

Leaning Republican....
Florida, North Carolina

Likely Republican...
Arizona, Georgia, Indiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana,

Safe Republican....
Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Wyoming, West Virginia

So, the default map would be...


Booker- 272 electoral votes
Haley- 266 electoral votes

If Booker nominates Nelson, he likely becomes the favorite in Florida, which gives him 301 electoral votes to Haley's 237.

Portman makes Ohio safer for Haley, but it's not enough.

Ryan might be Haley's best running mate in terms of swinging a state, as three points in Wisconsin could be a big difference in the outcome of the election.
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