Could Hillary win Missouri and not Colorado?

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Yes, but it's unlikely.

[Mr. Illini]

I could be the first Jewish Pope in theory, but...

You liberals want SO desperately for no Democrat ever to be able to compete in a so-called redneck state that you view as inferior (then you couldn't have such false elitism!)

You want SO desperately to paint a narrative on the liberals of the forum that doesn't exist. Liberals may not like Missouri because it is so socially conservative (also redneck (your words, not mine)), but they would be more than happy to see the Democrats pick up even more territory and further expand their dominance.

[IceSpear]

I could be the first Jewish Pope in theory, but...

You liberals want SO desperately for no Democrat ever to be able to compete in a so-called redneck state that you view as inferior (then you couldn't have such false elitism!), but the fact is that poll after poll shows Hillary at the very least competitive in states like Missouri and Arkansas.  If Obama can almost win Missouri, Hillary can.  And if you think Colorado is some deep blue state now, I think you're quite mistaken.

You're kind of off base here. It's actually because many of the Democrats here dislike Hillary, and thus try to diminish her obvious electability advantage to make her a less appealing candidate. Some have even said Hillary would perform worse in Arkansas than Obama did...lol.

[Old Man Willow]

I could be the first Jewish Pope in theory, but...

You liberals want SO desperately for no Democrat ever to be able to compete in a so-called redneck state that you view as inferior (then you couldn't have such false elitism!)

You want SO desperately to paint a narrative on the liberals of the forum that doesn't exist. Liberals may not like Missouri because it is so socially conservative (also redneck (your words, not mine)), but they would be more than happy to see the Democrats pick up even more territory and further expand their dominance.

Pretty sure Malcolm would prefer Hillary to lose all 50 states for his personal satisfaction.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I could be the first Jewish Pope in theory, but...

You liberals want SO desperately for no Democrat ever to be able to compete in a so-called redneck state that you view as inferior (then you couldn't have such false elitism!)

You want SO desperately to paint a narrative on the liberals of the forum that doesn't exist. Liberals may not like Missouri because it is so socially conservative (also redneck (your words, not mine)), but they would be more than happy to see the Democrats pick up even more territory and further expand their dominance.

Pretty sure Malcolm would prefer Hillary to lose all 50 states for his personal satisfaction.

Pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Warren 4 Secretary of Everything]

I could be the first Jewish Pope in theory, but...

You liberals want SO desperately for no Democrat ever to be able to compete in a so-called redneck state that you view as inferior (then you couldn't have such false elitism!)

You want SO desperately to paint a narrative on the liberals of the forum that doesn't exist. Liberals may not like Missouri because it is so socially conservative (also redneck (your words, not mine)), but they would be more than happy to see the Democrats pick up even more territory and further expand their dominance.

Pretty sure Malcolm would prefer Hillary to lose all 50 states for his personal satisfaction.

Pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about.

Pretty sure I'm Batman.

[IceSpear]

I could be the first Jewish Pope in theory, but...

You liberals want SO desperately for no Democrat ever to be able to compete in a so-called redneck state that you view as inferior (then you couldn't have such false elitism!)

You want SO desperately to paint a narrative on the liberals of the forum that doesn't exist. Liberals may not like Missouri because it is so socially conservative (also redneck (your words, not mine)), but they would be more than happy to see the Democrats pick up even more territory and further expand their dominance.

Pretty sure Malcolm would prefer Hillary to lose all 50 states for his personal satisfaction.

Pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about.

He's talking about your obsessive hatred of Hillary, duh. Weren't you the guy who said she'd lose to Ted Cruz?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I could be the first Jewish Pope in theory, but...

You liberals want SO desperately for no Democrat ever to be able to compete in a so-called redneck state that you view as inferior (then you couldn't have such false elitism!)

You want SO desperately to paint a narrative on the liberals of the forum that doesn't exist. Liberals may not like Missouri because it is so socially conservative (also redneck (your words, not mine)), but they would be more than happy to see the Democrats pick up even more territory and further expand their dominance.

Pretty sure Malcolm would prefer Hillary to lose all 50 states for his personal satisfaction.

Pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about.

He's talking about your obsessive hatred of Hillary, duh. Weren't you the guy who said she'd lose to Ted Cruz?

I like to think of myself as something of an authority on who I hate and I neither hate her nor have I ever had an "obsessive hatred" of anyone at any point in my life.  And no, I never said she'd lose to Ted Cruz.  In fact, I'm pretty confident she'd wipe the floor with him (so would a bag of doorknobs, but there you go ).  However, seeing as Cruz won't be the Republican nominee, her ability to defeat him is irrelevant.

[IceSpear]

I could be the first Jewish Pope in theory, but...

You liberals want SO desperately for no Democrat ever to be able to compete in a so-called redneck state that you view as inferior (then you couldn't have such false elitism!)

You want SO desperately to paint a narrative on the liberals of the forum that doesn't exist. Liberals may not like Missouri because it is so socially conservative (also redneck (your words, not mine)), but they would be more than happy to see the Democrats pick up even more territory and further expand their dominance.

Pretty sure Malcolm would prefer Hillary to lose all 50 states for his personal satisfaction.

Pretty sure you have no idea what you're talking about.

He's talking about your obsessive hatred of Hillary, duh. Weren't you the guy who said she'd lose to Ted Cruz?

I like to think of myself as something of an authority on who I hate and I neither hate her nor have I ever had an "obsessive hatred" of anyone at any point in my life.  And no, I never said she'd lose to Ted Cruz.  In fact, I'm pretty confident she'd wipe the floor with him (so would a bag of doorknobs, but there you go ).  However, seeing as Cruz won't be the Republican nominee, her ability to defeat him is irrelevant.

I just checked, and yeah that wasn't you. I think I got confused since the guy who said it also had a D-OH avatar. My bad.

[DS0816]

In Election 2012, the spread between Missouri and Colorado were 14.72 percent.

Missouri: R+9.36
Colorado: D+5.36

Aside from this thread's poll, how many of the Atlas Forum members are seriously thinking—if we do get a President Hillary Clinton with Election 2016 (in what would be a Democratic hold)—that Missouri is going to shift at least 9.37 percent Democratic while Colorado is going to shift at least 5.37 percent Republican?

[DS0816]

no.

and hillary isnt winning missouri anyway.

Why do you say that?

To be honest, Missouri seems to be trending Republican possibly due to social issues such as gay marriage, abortion and gun control. The only way I see Hillary Clinton winning Missouri is if she downplays her more liberal views on those issues.

It's the women of Missouri.

The men in Missouri were right on par with the national numbers of both 2008 (48 percent vs. national 49 percent for Barack Obama) and 2012 (43 percent vs. national 45 percent for President Obama). The women conspicuously underperformed in both elections (50 percent vs. national 56 percent for Barack Obama in 2008; 45 percent vs. national 55 percent for a re-elected President Obama in 2012).

[Old Man Willow]

What about Hillary winning AZ but not CO? The latest AZ polls from PPP showed her doing well there.