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Question: Do you favor the death penalty for abortionists?
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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2005, 05:29:44 PM »

These people should be honored as heros.  Probably the bravest people in modern america.

I would tend to agree with Opebo.  Not about the heroism part, but they are definitely the bravest people in America.

Are drug dealers freedom fighters in your opinion?
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2005, 05:54:44 PM »

These people should be honored as heros.  Probably the bravest people in modern america.

I would tend to agree with Opebo.  Not about the heroism part, but they are definitely the bravest people in America.

OK, you both make me sick, Good to know. So anyone doing an unpopular job is a Hero and Brave. As States said, A drug dealer? A hitman? What else?
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2005, 05:58:59 PM »

No!
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2005, 07:16:27 PM »

Nope, but then I don't agree with the death penalty.
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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2005, 11:23:43 PM »

They shouldn't get the death penalty.
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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2005, 06:21:03 AM »

These people should be honored as heros.  Probably the bravest people in modern america.

I would tend to agree with Opebo.  Not about the heroism part, but they are definitely the bravest people in America.

Are drug dealers freedom fighters in your opinion?

Yes, obviously drug dealers are freedom fighters - fighting the oppressive of a State that uses force to interfere in our individual right to drug use.  On the rare occasions they 'pop a cap in a pig' I applaud.  Of course it is far more common for them to be shot down in the course of their heroic struggles.

However Abortion Doctors are even more heroic and respectable people because their motives are entirely to help women.  They are well-educated professionals from the upper middle class, who could lead lucrative lives in any medical field, but they choose to risk death by murderous religious maniac in order to help women.  Drug dealers by contrast are very poor and motivated mostly by desire for profit. However, both types of hero should be saluted!
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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2005, 09:32:52 AM »

I'd like to propose a point of view I've never really seen argued on this forum or any other: life isn't all that sacred.  People kill people for any number of reasons every day, and have been doing so since time immemorial.  As a species, humans have not embraced one set of higher moral values: we still kill, we still value self-preservation over all else, we still put up with suffering when it doesn't affect us. To argue that killing needs to stop because it is immoral, I think, is nitpicking the moral fabric of a society. We put up with countless more egregious offenses against the sanctity of life and humanity (see Guantanamo) but don't raise a peep. 

When it comes to tangible issues of life and death, does anyone else notice how sanctimonious people from the left and the right get? The religious right abhorrs murderous abortion, but supports apocalyptic wars (with Germany, with Russia, with Iraq twice, with Kosovo, etc.) at the drop of a hat. Leftists oppose the barbarity of the death penalty but permit fetuses that are days from being viable humans to  be killed. The rhetoric and substance of both arguments is the same: the sanctity of life, the inviolability of the human body (or spirit), and the barbarity of taking a life. Even the most consistent of arguments that support life fall apart under closer examination.

The right and the left speak in great terms of how they value life and the other side is inhumane. But whether its death, social issues, or foreign policy, the barbarity of the human spirity rises above all and rears its head. NO ONE and I do mean NO ONE on this planet is allowed to take the moral high ground by claiming they value life more than anyone else.

To close, I argue that none of us are born innocent; we're just born. Our actions after that are judged as guilty or innocent based on the interpretation of actions by our culture, laws, and society. I think that all human societies - especially governmental models like the American constitution - permit a certain amount of death to occur. That's arguably one of its strengths: it accepts that human nature is not inherently good and makes allowances for it.  The only way to get out of this life scott free is to end it now and take as few people with you as possible. I'm well on my way to the end, hope to see you all there soon!

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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2005, 10:16:38 AM »

Oh, and this is no different from proposing the death penalty for executioners. Both are killing "something," both are not doing anything illegal.
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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2005, 11:00:30 AM »

However Abortion Doctors are even more heroic and respectable people because their motives are entirely to help women.
What the f**ck are you talking about.  They don't perform abortions because they care about women, it's just a well-paying business.

No, you're wrong - in fact as doctors they could have equally lucrative careers in other areas of medicine.  They only choose this, the most dangerous course for a doctor, out of care and concern for women.
 
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I have no idea what percentage of the religious are murderous. The point is it only takes a few.  These abortionists live under constant threat of attack by religious terrorists.

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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2005, 11:47:11 AM »

Of course not. This is hypocritical.

And I agree with opebo that abortion doctors do so out of concern for women.
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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2005, 09:42:58 PM »

This is stupid poll. Honestly, people who think doctors should be killed for doing their jobs is crazy.
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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2005, 11:06:19 PM »

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Yes, obviously drug dealers are freedom fighters - fighting the oppressive of a State that uses force to interfere in our individual right to drug use.  On the rare occasions they 'pop a cap in a pig' I applaud.  Of course it is far more common for them to be shot down in the course of their heroic struggles.
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I highly doubt that most drug dealers want drugs legalized or care about your freedoms. Kinda takes away from the business.
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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2005, 11:25:25 PM »

Last time I checked we weren't executing people for commiting an act which is not a crime.
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« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2005, 11:26:33 PM »

Oh, and this is no different from proposing the death penalty for executioners. Both are killing "something," both are not doing anything illegal.

We're clearly talking about AFTER it's illegal.
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« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2005, 11:28:53 PM »

Would I suggest it, no.

Whether or not he deserves it is another debate.
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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2005, 11:30:32 PM »

These people should be honored as heros.  Probably the bravest people in modern america.

You are truely sick.
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« Reply #41 on: April 01, 2005, 01:03:50 AM »

These people should be honored as heros.  Probably the bravest people in modern america.

I would tend to agree with Opebo.  Not about the heroism part, but they are definitely the bravest people in America.

Are drug dealers freedom fighters in your opinion?

Yes, obviously drug dealers are freedom fighters - fighting the oppressive of a State that uses force to interfere in our individual right to drug use.  On the rare occasions they 'pop a cap in a pig' I applaud.  Of course it is far more common for them to be shot down in the course of their heroic struggles.


You're a sick moron if you really believe what you say! Do you think selling drugs to children is OK?
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« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2005, 01:47:05 AM »

These people should be honored as heros.  Probably the bravest people in modern america.

You make me sick. Murdering the innocent should be honored? No wonder your a Marxist.

There is nothing that Opebo hates more than innocent life.
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« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2005, 02:20:20 AM »

These people should be honored as heros.  Probably the bravest people in modern america.

I would tend to agree with Opebo.  Not about the heroism part, but they are definitely the bravest people in America.

Are drug dealers freedom fighters in your opinion?

Yes, obviously drug dealers are freedom fighters - fighting the oppressive of a State that uses force to interfere in our individual right to drug use.  On the rare occasions they 'pop a cap in a pig' I applaud.  Of course it is far more common for them to be shot down in the course of their heroic struggles.


You're a sick moron if you really believe what you say! Do you think selling drugs to children is OK?

I really dont think he belives most of the things he says. If you look at his views, It is just anything he can say to be shocking, anything that is Normal in society, he is opposed to and vice versa. I think he is a sad person that needs attention. If what he says is really what he thinks, then he needs help. I am going to pray for him and ignore him from hear on out.
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« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2005, 07:27:52 AM »

These people should be honored as heros.  Probably the bravest people in modern america.

I would tend to agree with Opebo.  Not about the heroism part, but they are definitely the bravest people in America.

Are drug dealers freedom fighters in your opinion?

Yes, obviously drug dealers are freedom fighters - fighting the oppressive of a State that uses force to interfere in our individual right to drug use.  On the rare occasions they 'pop a cap in a pig' I applaud.  Of course it is far more common for them to be shot down in the course of their heroic struggles.


You're a sick moron if you really believe what you say! Do you think selling drugs to children is OK?

I never say anything I don't believe.  Do you think selling drugs to free adults is not OK?  Can a grown person be 'free' if the State tells him he cannot take a drug?
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« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2005, 07:29:48 AM »

These people should be honored as heros.  Probably the bravest people in modern america.

I would tend to agree with Opebo.  Not about the heroism part, but they are definitely the bravest people in America.

Are drug dealers freedom fighters in your opinion?

Yes, obviously drug dealers are freedom fighters - fighting the oppressive of a State that uses force to interfere in our individual right to drug use.  On the rare occasions they 'pop a cap in a pig' I applaud.  Of course it is far more common for them to be shot down in the course of their heroic struggles.


You're a sick moron if you really believe what you say! Do you think selling drugs to children is OK?

I really dont think he belives most of the things he says. If you look at his views, It is just anything he can say to be shocking, anything that is Normal in society, he is opposed to and vice versa. I think he is a sad person that needs attention. If what he says is really what he thinks, then he needs help. I am going to pray for him and ignore him from hear on out.

GW, what is 'Normal' in society is usually violent oppression, intrusion into privacy, and hatred of freedom.  I'm proud to say I am opposed to these things.
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« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2005, 11:21:30 AM »

No

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