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« on: September 17, 2015, 05:46:56 PM »

Republicans argue that the worst Republican is better than any Democrat so they would vote for a Republican nominated for presidency. Thus, Trump has real chances to become a president provided that he still has public support. A Huff post poll showed that people would better give their vote for candidates from their party. I think this shows deep devotion of citizens to their political party. Yet, many of them doubt Trump`s affiliation to the party and say he is not a real Republican. That`s a kind of blind devotion I think.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2015, 06:09:01 PM »

I have no doubt that most of the Republicans will still vote for Trump.  Here's where things become difficult for Trump:

The fact is that 36% of Republicans disagree, saying that the worst member of the Republican party isn't better than the best member of the Democratic party.  If even 10% or 20% of Republicans vote for the Democrat, Trump is toast.  They don't even need to vote for the Democrat, if those people end up staying home, that would still make it much harder for Trump to win.

That's not even considering independents and possible turnout increasing among certain Democratic groups.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2015, 06:11:09 PM »

I have no doubt that most of the Republicans will still vote for Trump.  Here's where things become difficult for Trump:

The fact is that 36% of Republicans disagree, saying that the worst member of the Republican party isn't better than the best member of the Democratic party.  If even 10% or 20% of Republicans vote for the Democrat, Trump is toast.  They don't even need to vote for the Democrat, if those people end up staying home, that would still make it much harder for Trump to win.

That's not even considering independents and possible turnout increasing among certain Democratic groups.

Why would there be increased turnout in any of the Democratic groups?
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2015, 06:14:17 PM »

If Trump is nominated, there will be a significant number of Republicans who will endorse Trump, but do nothing for him, unless he's popular in their, state, in which case, they'll try for coattails.  A number of other Republicans will "endorse" Trump in that they will pretty much state that they will vote for Trump, but will not campaign with him or for him.  

The only Republicans that are refusing to vote for Trump are those who have no chance of being nominated (e. g. Jindal).  They have nothing to lose; they're trying to look right in the longer arc of history.  Either that, or they're convinced that Trump will never be nominated.  

Lots of Democrats in 1972 said, when pressed, that they would vote for George McGovern but would not campaign with him, etc.  In this category, I'm including Jimmy Carter, the 1976 nominee, who, while being generally unkind to McGovern, also sought to be his VP nominee.  There's a reason why McGovern voted for Ford in 1976, and why he once referred to McGovern as "the biggest p---k in politics".
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2015, 06:18:55 PM »

I have no doubt that most of the Republicans will still vote for Trump.  Here's where things become difficult for Trump:

The fact is that 36% of Republicans disagree, saying that the worst member of the Republican party isn't better than the best member of the Democratic party.  If even 10% or 20% of Republicans vote for the Democrat, Trump is toast.  They don't even need to vote for the Democrat, if those people end up staying home, that would still make it much harder for Trump to win.

That's not even considering independents and possible turnout increasing among certain Democratic groups.

Why would there be increased turnout in any of the Democratic groups?

Round the clock attack ads featuring Trump's quotes on women and Mexicans (and whatever other groups he could insult from here to November 2016) will make them turn out against him in droves.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2015, 06:21:58 PM »

I have no doubt that most of the Republicans will still vote for Trump.  Here's where things become difficult for Trump:

The fact is that 36% of Republicans disagree, saying that the worst member of the Republican party isn't better than the best member of the Democratic party.  If even 10% or 20% of Republicans vote for the Democrat, Trump is toast.  They don't even need to vote for the Democrat, if those people end up staying home, that would still make it much harder for Trump to win.

That's not even considering independents and possible turnout increasing among certain Democratic groups.

Why would there be increased turnout in any of the Democratic groups?

Round the clock attack ads featuring Trump's quotes on women and Mexicans (and whatever other groups he could insult from here to November 2016) will make them turn out against him in droves.

I disagree. People are motivated by inspiring candidates, by support, not by opposition or hate.
Negative campaign can only depress turnout.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2015, 06:28:16 PM »

I cannot join a GOP supporting Trump. If they nominated Kasich or Rubio, I would easily change, unless Biden was the Democratic nominee. If it's Kasich v. Biden, I'd remain an Indy until one was defeated. If Kasich won, I'd be a Republican. If he lost, I'd be a "Libertarian for Biden".

Honestly, I consider myself an independent because neither party will accept someone with my views. A Jerry Brown or a John Kasich.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2015, 06:38:59 PM »

I have no doubt that most of the Republicans will still vote for Trump.  Here's where things become difficult for Trump:

The fact is that 36% of Republicans disagree, saying that the worst member of the Republican party isn't better than the best member of the Democratic party.  If even 10% or 20% of Republicans vote for the Democrat, Trump is toast.  They don't even need to vote for the Democrat, if those people end up staying home, that would still make it much harder for Trump to win.

That's not even considering independents and possible turnout increasing among certain Democratic groups.

Why would there be increased turnout in any of the Democratic groups?

Round the clock attack ads featuring Trump's quotes on women and Mexicans (and whatever other groups he could insult from here to November 2016) will make them turn out against him in droves.

I disagree. People are motivated by inspiring candidates, by support, not by opposition or hate.
Negative campaign can only depress turnout.
Ironic considering that Trump's campaign is the most hateful campaign we've seen yet.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2015, 06:44:08 PM »

A lot of Democrats will support Trump you forget. And he will cater to them too once he shows he's far to Hillary's left. I jokingly trolled a Think Progress post last night and someone seriously responded that though Trump is sufficiently progressive, Sanders was their first choice for now.

Hopefully those people come home to the best candidate as expected.
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2015, 08:00:35 PM »

I have no doubt that most of the Republicans will still vote for Trump.  Here's where things become difficult for Trump:

The fact is that 36% of Republicans disagree, saying that the worst member of the Republican party isn't better than the best member of the Democratic party.  If even 10% or 20% of Republicans vote for the Democrat, Trump is toast.  They don't even need to vote for the Democrat, if those people end up staying home, that would still make it much harder for Trump to win.

That's not even considering independents and possible turnout increasing among certain Democratic groups.

Why would there be increased turnout in any of the Democratic groups?

Round the clock attack ads featuring Trump's quotes on women and Mexicans (and whatever other groups he could insult from here to November 2016) will make them turn out against him in droves.

I disagree. People are motivated by inspiring candidates, by support, not by opposition or hate.
Negative campaign can only depress turnout.

In certain circumstances, yes; but if the charge is damning enough, or if the candidate alienates voters on his own without help from the opposition (as Trump has), it can be effective.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2015, 08:35:17 PM »

I cannot join a GOP supporting Trump. If they nominated Kasich or Rubio, I would easily change, unless Biden was the Democratic nominee. If it's Kasich v. Biden, I'd remain an Indy until one was defeated. If Kasich won, I'd be a Republican. If he lost, I'd be a "Libertarian for Biden".

Honestly, I consider myself an independent because neither party will accept someone with my views. A Jerry Brown or a John Kasich.
Didn't you say that you were a Republican on AH.com?
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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2015, 05:37:33 AM »

Generally, this is the case. Most Hillary supporters voted for Obama in '08 Tongue
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