Is Biden "The One"?

[Col. Roosevelt]

Let's take a look at the field:

Clinton is horribly corrupt, lacks charisma, is elitist, cold, detached, condescending and petty. She's viewed by a lot of people as a "bitch"; she's disliked even by a big chunk of the Democrats. I've looked on Facebook and other sites and I see many committed Sanders people (thus, a good sampling of the Dem base) who have said they will sit home on election day if Clinton is the nominee. She'll result in low Democratic turnout, and high GOP turnout (given the utter hatred Republicans have of the Clintons). We should have a female President, but she's not it. She's alienating and divisive. This is a woman who is part of one of the most powerful dynasties in our country, who is the wife of arguably the most popular President of the last 50 years - and she's polling second to a socialist from Wyoming.

Sanders is old, too far to the left, not at all Presidential in his mannerisms, some of his ideas are good but aren't doable and would give the White House to the Republicans. He does not have the "it" factor that Obama had in 2008, nor the warmth or rockstar status that propelled Obama to the top. Obama had in 2008 three factors working in his favor:

1) We were in the worst recession in nearly a century. Now, the economy is doing pretty good.
2) The sitting President was of the opposite party and was reviled. Obama's doing pretty well popularity wise, but Sanders can't bank on that as he wasn't part of the administration
3) Obama was the first black nominee of either of the two major parties. His nomination was historic, a major event. Sanders is just an old white guy who happens to be a socialist. Socialism isn't novel anymore.

Sanders' far left views I think will alienate many moderates and independents. His old man persona isn't exciting, he lacks "energy" or "vigor", he's basically a left-wing Ron Paul. His supporters are the Occupy Wall Street crowd and aging Hippies. Sanders is also way too nice. Look at how he never once truly attacked Clinton - He prefers an old style of politics. I can't see him fiercely engaging say, Trump, or Ted Cruz in a debate in the way they would engage him.

Biden, on the other hand, can if the economy is doing well, run on Obama's record. He has that advantage. He's also a very well-liked guy and is seen as a personable, down to Earth average Joe. He doesn't have the baggage Clinton carries with her, nor is he embroiled in an-going scandal; He also isn't a radical and might be able to pick up Virginia again and moderates/independents. He's an inviting figure, and while he's an older man, he's a fierce debater and doesn't seem like an old man in the way Sanders does. While he is gaffe-prone, the 2012 VP debates showed he can handle himself well against a younger opponent; he can be fierce if he has to be - This would work especially well if he's facing someone like Rubio. He also is kind of politically incorrect, which would play well against someone like Trump, without being a racist. He also doesn't elicit the kind of hate Hillary does and thus GOP turnout would be lower against him.

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Let's take a look at the field:

Sanders is old

Old as in less than fifteen months older than Biden?

[Col. Roosevelt]

Let's take a look at the field:

Sanders is old

Old as in less than fifteen months older than Biden?

Old, my dear Comrade, as in, he comes off like an old man. Image is everything. Sanders comes off like an old man, Biden, though a senior himself, does not. Reagan was 69 when inaugurated, but did he come off like an old man? Now, compare Reagan to Eisenhower, who was 69 in 1959 - Dwight seemed old, while Reagan didn't at the same age. It's all about image and perception.

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Let's take a look at the field:

Sanders is old

Old as in less than fifteen months older than Biden?

Old, my dear Comrade, as in, he comes off like an old man. Image is everything. Sanders comes off like an old man, Biden, though a senior himself, does not. Reagan was 69 when inaugurated, but did he come off like an old man? Now, compare Reagan to Eisenhower, who was 69 in 1959 - Dwight seemed old, while Reagan didn't at the same age. It's all about image and perception.

Biden is beaming with rays of youth, of course

[Col. Roosevelt]

Let's take a look at the field:

Sanders is old

Old as in less than fifteen months older than Biden?

Old, my dear Comrade, as in, he comes off like an old man. Image is everything. Sanders comes off like an old man, Biden, though a senior himself, does not. Reagan was 69 when inaugurated, but did he come off like an old man? Now, compare Reagan to Eisenhower, who was 69 in 1959 - Dwight seemed old, while Reagan didn't at the same age. It's all about image and perception.

Biden is beaming with rays of youth, of course

Comrade, oh my dear SJW comrade, how I love thee, how I wish we could still register people like you . You see, Sanders is an old fossil, and is way too nice. His biggest moment in the debate was defending his opponent. He's a boring old man.

[Blue3]

Didn't you just say in another forum that Hillary and the Democratic Party have become too liberal for you, and you were switching to Republicans?

[Col. Roosevelt]

Didn't you just say in another forum that Hillary and the Democratic Party have become too liberal for you, and you were switching to Republicans?

The Democratic Party overall is. I look at Biden as their last hope.

[bagelman]

Blue: Wyoming

Red: Bernie Sander's home state

Other than that I think your arguments are valid, though I doubt that the Democrats are seriously planning for a Trump nominee.

[Pyro]

No. Biden will not run anyway. Even if he does, I think you're underestimating the strength of Clinton's campaign and way overestimating Biden's potential.

Depending on the shape of the GOP and its nominee next year, I think Hillary has the best shot at the nomination and the presidency, even if Biden jumps in. Although she should be seen as Obama's third term (as should Biden), enough people believe that she'll be different due to her empty promises. I think Biden is too saturated with Obama's policies to be effective in such an anti-establishment cycle. Clinton has the money, has the right friends, and will utilize the Obama campaign infrastructure to her advantage. Biden would have an uphill battle if he joins in this late, and his only real support would come from Obama Democrats who don't like Clinton.

Not to mince words, Sanders is the Kucinich/Jesse Jackson of this cycle. He's here to persuade left-sympathizing folks to get back in the Democratic party line and that's it. I think it needs to be said that he is carrying a message that is resonating with a lot of people, not just Occupy protesters. His poll percentages should indicate that (which is why Clinton is introducing more populistic messages into her campaign.) I disagree that his age is an issue when Clinton and Biden are not a whole lot younger. He seems to be quite animated on stage and knows how to break monotone, unlike most of his competitors. Regardless, the Dem establishment has no intentions of making him the nominee and even if he somehow were to become that, it would be a major long-shot with a huge financial disadvantage.

[Ljube]

Let's take a look at the field:

Clinton is horribly corrupt, lacks charisma, is elitist, cold, detached, condescending and petty. She's viewed by a lot of people as a "bitch"; she's disliked even by a big chunk of the Democrats. I've looked on Facebook and other sites and I see many committed Sanders people (thus, a good sampling of the Dem base) who have said they will sit home on election day if Clinton is the nominee. She'll result in low Democratic turnout, and high GOP turnout (given the utter hatred Republicans have of the Clintons). We should have a female President, but she's not it. She's alienating and divisive. This is a woman who is part of one of the most powerful dynasties in our country, who is the wife of arguably the most popular President of the last 50 years - and she's polling second to a socialist from Wyoming.

Sanders is old, too far to the left, not at all Presidential in his mannerisms, some of his ideas are good but aren't doable and would give the White House to the Republicans. He does not have the "it" factor that Obama had in 2008, nor the warmth or rockstar status that propelled Obama to the top. Obama had in 2008 three factors working in his favor:

1) We were in the worst recession in nearly a century. Now, the economy is doing pretty good.
2) The sitting President was of the opposite party and was reviled. Obama's doing pretty well popularity wise, but Sanders can't bank on that as he wasn't part of the administration
3) Obama was the first black nominee of either of the two major parties. His nomination was historic, a major event. Sanders is just an old white guy who happens to be a socialist. Socialism isn't novel anymore.

Sanders' far left views I think will alienate many moderates and independents. His old man persona isn't exciting, he lacks "energy" or "vigor", he's basically a left-wing Ron Paul. His supporters are the Occupy Wall Street crowd and aging Hippies. Sanders is also way too nice. Look at how he never once truly attacked Clinton - He prefers an old style of politics. I can't see him fiercely engaging say, Trump, or Ted Cruz in a debate in the way they would engage him.

Biden, on the other hand, can if the economy is doing well, run on Obama's record. He has that advantage. He's also a very well-liked guy and is seen as a personable, down to Earth average Joe. He doesn't have the baggage Clinton carries with her, nor is he embroiled in an-going scandal; He also isn't a radical and might be able to pick up Virginia again and moderates/independents. He's an inviting figure, and while he's an older man, he's a fierce debater and doesn't seem like an old man in the way Sanders does. While he is gaffe-prone, the 2012 VP debates showed he can handle himself well against a younger opponent; he can be fierce if he has to be - This would work especially well if he's facing someone like Rubio. He also is kind of politically incorrect, which would play well against someone like Trump, without being a racist. He also doesn't elicit the kind of hate Hillary does and thus GOP turnout would be lower against him.

Spot on analysis delivered very eloquently. Kudos!